MISCELLANEOUS Message Board Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:02:36 ______________________________________________________________________________ | ============================================================================ | | 428) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 7:52:34 pm | | glennmcc> | *39% advocate that U.S. Muslims should carry special ID | | Vu ist ze papers ?!?!? | | ============================================================================ | | 429) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 8:30:44 pm | | gregy> | | "An earlier poll of Americans, commissioned by CAIR..." | ^^^^^^^^ | ah...I see...there's where we're differing.......you're quoting | islamo-propagandists, and I'm getting my info from the real world | .... | | "When people begin to THAT biased against ANY particular group of | others... we are on the road to the fourth reich." | ....yes...I agree....and we should all be tolerant and accepting of | child-molesters and murderers, too....and be big-hearted enough to | hire them as our babysitters and kindergarten teachers..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 430) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 8:32:24 pm | URL | | gregy> | This outa lighten things up, around here, a bit..... | | http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.p?ref=/goldberg/goldberg09110 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 431) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 8:40:35 pm | | glennmcc> | No... where we differ is in the fact that I see no reason to joke around | and use multiple s when speaking of racism and hate mongering. :(( | | This is no jokeing matter... it _is_ serious business. | | ============================================================================ | | 432) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 8:44:30 pm | | gregy> | ..and...just to indulge in a little "appeasement" around here..... | ...I solemnly swear to never use the terms jihadonazis/islamofacists | ever again..... | ...instead....I shall henceforth refer to all such as: | ... | ta da...!!!! | .... | ... | ... | islamonerfherders.... | ... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 433) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 8:46:53 pm | | gregy> | well...I'm just going to hafta lived "doomed" under the umbrella of your | labeling me as someone guilty of: | | "....racism and hate mongering. :((....." | | | | ============================================================================ | | 434) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 8:53:21 pm | | glennmcc> | What's really scarry is that you don't seem to see anything wrong with | equating being Muslin to being a murderer or child molester. | | ============================================================================ | | 435) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 8:54:53 pm | | glennmcc> | And you still make jokes about making up new words that perpetuate hatred. | | ============================================================================ | | 436) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 8:56:26 pm | | glennmcc> | Or do you actually believe that "islamonerfherders" is a term of endearment | | | ============================================================================ | | 437) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:04:09 pm | | glennmcc> | If it is wrong to call a black man a nigger, | and is wrong to call a Jew a kike.... | why do feel it is OK to call Muslims by such derogitory terms ? | | ============================================================================ | | 438) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:12:11 pm | | glennmcc> | I guess I'm just a "filthy Mic" and you're just a "lousy crout". :( | | ============================================================================ | | 439) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:16:31 pm | | gregy> | note - a "christian" (or "jew") can also be a murderer or a child | molester......so.....I think where you're getting bogged down is in | conflating "muslim" with islamonerfherder (or jihadonazi/islamofacist) | ... | For that matter of fact....a jihadonazi or islamofacist is not | necessarily a devout practicioner of Islam... | ...and...there ARE some mainstream Muslim scholars who have pointed | this out.... | ...so....I suggest you stop conflating religion with the actions of | some jihadonazis and islamofacists..... | ..... | "...why do feel it is OK to call Muslims by such derogitory terms ?" | ... | do you mean that people who blow up pregnant women are Muslims...??? | ....is that pertaining to ALL Muslims??? If so, then you are, again, | conflating ordinary Muslims with sickos....something I have been careful | to NOT do... | ... | Again...I know many Muslims....and NONE of the Muslims I personally know | consider these jihadonazis/islamofacists to be "good" Muslims... | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 440) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:18:33 pm | | gregy> | "...equating being Muslin to being a murderer or child molester...." | | You know I never did that....if you misunderstood what I said, then | that's too bad...but....you will NOT find anywhere where I have | conflated the two... | | | ============================================================================ | | 441) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:19:21 pm | | gregy> | ........or...why not "filthy kraut"...... | | | ============================================================================ | | 442) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:23:53 pm | | glennmcc> | Islam is the religion of Muslims. | | A Muslim is a person who practices the Islamic religion. | | Islam == Muslim | | Just as Judaism == Jew == Jewish | | Your term of "islamonerfherders" _IS_ a hatefull remark aimed squarely at | anyone whom practices the Islamic religion. | | | ============================================================================ | | 443) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:27:30 pm | | gregy> | no...to the contrary....the disparaging terms I use are designed to | specifically designate those sickos as SEPARATE from normal, ordinary | Muslims...who are NOT out playing "blowing-up-baby"....... | ... | If you can see that...then you will conflate my (and societies) use of | the terms "child-molester" and "murder" as "hateful terms" aimed at | demonizing the whole human race... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 444) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:28:21 pm | | glennmcc> | re: post 440 | | You never did ???? | | The what do you call this ???? | | | "When people begin to THAT biased against ANY particular group of | others... we are on the road to the fourth reich." | ....yes...I agree....and we should all be tolerant and accepting of | child-molesters and murderers, too....and be big-hearted enough to | hire them as our babysitters and kindergarten teachers..... | | ============================================================================ | | 445) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:28:55 pm | | gregy> | correction... | "If you can see that...then you will conflate my (and societies) use of" | ^^^^^^^can't^^^^^^ | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 446) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:31:15 pm | | gregy> | Re: 444....hmmm...where does THAT quote conflate Muslim=jihadonazi or | human=child molester .......?????? | | | ============================================================================ | | 447) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:31:37 pm | | glennmcc> | OK ... by your definition. | | "islamonerfherders" == bad islamic | "judaistonerfherders" -== bad jew | "chrisianonerfherders" == bad chrisian | "hinduonerfherders" == bad hindu | "budistonerfherders" == bad budist | | ============================================================================ | | 448) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:45:35 pm | | glennmcc> | NorseoSwedoNerfHerder | | | ============================================================================ | | 449) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 9:47:50 pm | | glennmcc> | IrishoScottsoNerfHerder | | ============================================================================ | | 450) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 11:01:13 pm | | gregy> | well...I don't know about those last two..... | ... | KrautoNorskoFrogoNerfHerder..... | ... | Oops....forgot about the: | | KrautoNorskoFrogoBasquoNerfHerder..... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 451) Thu, Aug 17, 2006 - 11:02:51 pm | | gregy> | I mean...since Basques have traditionally been employed (out here, at | least) as sheepherders.....I guess "NerfHerder" might not be too much | of an imaginative stretch...... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 452) Fri, Aug 18, 2006 - 1:00:59 am | | glennmcc> | But just how the heck do you herd a nerf ???? | | Last I checked... a nerf was a foamrubber football. | | ============================================================================ | | 453) Fri, Aug 18, 2006 - 7:44:47 am | URL | | Eric> | Ok, Guys, stop googling ! | | http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6106479.html | | ============================================================================ | | 454) Fri, Aug 18, 2006 - 7:48:51 am | URL | | Eric> | I wonder if this is M$ technology ? | | http://www.techspot.com/news/22576-rfid-passports-make-it-to-the-us.html | | | ============================================================================ | | 455) Fri, Aug 18, 2006 - 9:42:55 am | | gregy> | Glenn....hmmm....maybe like they were a "herd of soccer balls"... | ... | Eric...well....hmmmmm....I think that's just sour grapes....I mean, I | can remember in the early days of google when they actually promoted | the use of their name....in diverse ways.....just to build name | recognition.....now they're backpedaling...??? I think NOT... | ...I believe someone in that article pointed out that stopping its | use would be like trying to turn back water from the head of Niagra | Falls with a teaspoon...... | .... | Eric....RFID isn't an M$ technology...it's that stuff they're trying to | introduce in K-mart, Wal-mart, etc, etc...where the tags in the sale | items are readable using RadioFrequencyID (RFID) chips...and they are | trying to spread their use to the whooooooolllleeee world...(even to you | and me...)...the latest is that Dept. Agriculture publishing of new | rules, recently, for the "tracking" of all livestock in the US...using | some form of this technology.....AFAIK....it was implemented originally | by trucking companies/shipping companies.....and M$ had nothing to do | with it..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 456) Fri, Aug 18, 2006 - 9:59:19 am | | Eric> | gregy, I find that hard to swallow ... that M$ had "nothing" | to do with it ! WG is everywhere ! Omniscient, so to | speak ! | | ============================================================================ | | Š 457) Fri, Aug 18, 2006 - 10:16:16 am | | Eric> | gregy, I would find it hard to swallow that M$/WG developed/invented | RFID . But I also find it hard to swallow that M$ isn't | involved in it, based on history. WG/M$ is kind of a | black hole when it comes to that kind of development ... sucking | it in/up as fast as it can ! After all, it's their life blood. | They have to support it in their products. | | | ============================================================================ | | 458) Fri, Aug 18, 2006 - 9:14:19 pm | | gregy> | yeah...I know what you mean....hmmmm...what was that quote...??? | ..something like, "Adopt and extend/expand (meaning screw it up so | no one BUT M$ can use it/sell it)"....... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 459) Fri, Aug 18, 2006 - 11:27:24 pm | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5769 | | | ============================================================================ | | 460) Sat, Aug 19, 2006 - 9:23:53 pm | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/19/AR2006081900 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 461) Sat, Aug 19, 2006 - 9:48:39 pm | URL | | gregy> | | http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/weblogs/afb/archives/004577.html | | | ============================================================================ | | 462) Mon, Aug 21, 2006 - 1:26:15 pm | URL | | gregy> | Glenn....your dream come true.... | | http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ap/0806/1902_stuck_in_chocolate.html | | | | ============================================================================ | | 463) Mon, Aug 21, 2006 - 4:52:55 pm | | glennmcc> | Yes.... my dream come true. | (he said as he grabbed yet another handgful of M&Ms and tossed them into | his waiting chocohollic mouth) | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 464) Mon, Aug 21, 2006 - 11:35:12 pm | | > | After more than two hours in the chocolate, does he still have a taste for i | | "Not so much anymore," Garcia said. | | lol | | | ============================================================================ | | 465) Tue, Aug 22, 2006 - 2:26:41 pm | | Eric> | I saw a picure of that "chocolate man" on TV News but as is | often the case it was one of those "coming up next" teases, | so... I never saw what it was about, since I walked away during | the comercial. Sounds like a story from Willie Wonka. What | kind of a "center" do you call that ? .... Certainly not | nougat... That's what I call trying too hard to attract the | women ! | | ============================================================================ | | 466) Tue, Aug 22, 2006 - 2:33:39 pm | | Eric> | Re: Chocolate man | | I think his girlfriend just ran home, before the crowd | gathered, and left him stuck there ! What a hot tub ! | | | ============================================================================ | | 467) Tue, Aug 22, 2006 - 5:56:29 pm | | glennmcc> | Gregy, | | It looks like you're gonna hafta disable anonymous posting capabilities | at 'The Other Place'. | | A figgin' SPAMMER is horribly abusing it. :((( | | ============================================================================ | | 468) Wed, Aug 23, 2006 - 2:53:09 am | | gregy> | Glenn....thanks...I'll go check it....FYI....(and Jake's)...I may | need to temporarily disable all posting...while I try to figure out how | to disable anonyposts..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 469) Wed, Aug 23, 2006 - 2:53:51 am | URL | | gregy> | I think this is cool.... | | http://news.zdnet.com/2102-9584_22-6108238.html | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 470) Wed, Aug 23, 2006 - 3:01:56 am | | gregy> | Glenn....yeah...I see what you mean... | ... | AsFarAsICanTell....all of those URLs he's posting return "Not Found" | errors....so...he's not really a "spammer"...he's a "web-terrorists" | .... | ... | I'll delete the datafile and countfile and see what I can do about | disabling that anonypost feature... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 471) Wed, Aug 23, 2006 - 5:53:04 am | URL | | gregy> | hmmm...looks like the bluestaters, up west of here, have been indulging | in the standard proggy-lib practice of "appeasing the enemy"... | | http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20060821&Category=NEWS | | | ============================================================================ | | 472) Wed, Aug 23, 2006 - 7:09:12 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/05/AR2006040502 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 473) Wed, Aug 23, 2006 - 7:25:36 am | | Eric> | gregy, Those 'coons thrive around humans. They used to sit | and watch me work on my car. They even would walk past me, | close enough that I could have grabbed them, if I were foolish | enough to do so. They can go almost anywhere they really want | to go. They can climb and get into almost anything if left | non-disturbed. That lady that got bit is lucky if she is | still in one piece. Those 'coons that are vicious are reeeeaally | nasty. My sister in law was nipped by a pet 'coon that belonged | to our friends (they had a permit for it). She was foolish & | naive and ran up and grabbed it from behind which scared it. | That 'coon had teeth & claws that felt like razor blades. | | | ============================================================================ | | 474) Wed, Aug 23, 2006 - 8:26:31 pm | | glennmcc> | Gregy, | | When you 1st click on those links at The Other Place, you get a page | not found. | | But on some of them, when you hit 'R' in Arachne to reload you _do_ get | a page full of stuff. | | The page itself is no problem. | | But... the hidden JavaShit is a major problem to anyone running a JS | capable browser with JS enabled. | | They will get tons of popup adds from that JS. | | ============================================================================ | | 475) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 1:32:29 am | | gregy> | Well...I've d/led the script (also the data and count files) and I'll | poke in there and see how to disable the anonyposting...then give it | a try.... | ... | It looks like he's been doing that since last fri/sat and does it once | or twice each day, early in the morning.... | ... | I'll just leave it up, for now, while I figure out how to disable that. | ... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 476) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 1:33:53 am | | gregy> | Re: his links...I clicked on several of them, got "Not Found" and then | pressed "R" and got a repeat....but....I never tried all of them...so | ...you did.........you're more patient than I am... | | | ============================================================================ | | 477) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 1:39:45 am | | gregy> | Eric....coons are vermin, out here....and you CAN have a pet one, but | ...you can get into all kinds of trouble with your neighbors, if you | do....and....unless you keep it VERY closely confined, you'll get a | nuisance citation....or....more likely....it'll just "disappear"... | ... | The wild ones (don't know of any pet ones, around here) are religiously | shot, clubbed or run over, around here.... | ... | As I said, they're classed as vermin, like skunks, and we don't have | any trouble with "un-shy" ones....they're all gunshy.... | ... | I live right down in the riverbottom, here in my new trailer court, | and I know they're all around, but....they don't come around human | habitation....and they don't pester pets.....and...about this time of | year, they start getting nailed on all the roads/highways around here, | and nobody....NOBODY....ever swerves to keep from mashing one of the | critters....in fact....it's a general rule to swerve to hit them... | .... | | | ============================================================================ | | 478) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 1:55:32 am | | gregy> | Jake....it seems to me that Hoody's perl scripts can be used if they've | been generated/modified by a DOS-enviro Editor....??? | ...I mean....as they stand, they're all just "^J" instead of CR/LF pairs | at the end of lines... | ...but....it shouldn't make any difference if I edit and save it with | the CR/LF pairs....instead of just the ^J....??? Am I correct...??? | | | | ============================================================================ | | 479) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 2:51:47 am | | Jake> | Suck it and see! Upload as text. You should have a directory of stats, | so you could track him down and then keep him out (temporarily at | least) with an .htaccess of the form | deny from spammer.com | Make it as a textfile called e.g. deny.hta -- upload -- rename to .htaccess | | While you're doing stuff, you need to change the email address receiving | info about potential new users. | | ============================================================================ | | 480) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 3:06:39 am | | gregy> | Okay....I'll check into that.....thanks... | ... | As you know....I'm a tyro at un-dinking that site........guess | it's about time I got "stuck into it"...... | | | ============================================================================ | | 481) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 3:08:30 am | | gregy> | Re: email address.....hmmm...didn't you change that, oh, about a year | ago....???....I mean...I'm now getting notices at my email addy, instead | of you getting them at that 800-addy.... | ... | Is that the email address you mean....??? | | | | ============================================================================ | | 482) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 3:09:39 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51656 | | | ============================================================================ | | 483) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 4:15:56 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/ | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/57365858.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/stretcherarm.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/amb_hit_by_Israel.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/story.gaza.ap.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/9c420a6.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/story.gaza.strike.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/gaza372.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/2006-07-24-NBCNNAmb.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/P7310041.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/red_cross_full.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/IMG_1127_3.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/IMG_1127_2.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/IMG_1127_1.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/41966130amb.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/top_opening.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/screenshot.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/71429433.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/spears_iftar2.jpg | http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/lebanons-pain-seen-in-a-mothers-heartbreak/ | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/holeclose.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/bostonbig.jpg | http://www.zombietime.com/fraud/ambulance/peekdetail.jpg | | | ============================================================================ | | 484) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 4:22:49 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.forbes.com/home/2006/08/23/Marriage-Careers-Divorce_cx_mn_land.ht | | | | ============================================================================ | | 485) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 5:33:48 am | | Jake> | An underhand trick was used to stop bunches of idiots lobbing munitions | at each other? | | FAN-BLOODY-TASTIC! | | Anything that allows them to take stock of the situation and sort out | (or learn to ignore) their differences without involving ordinary folks | in needless heartache gets my vote. | | All's fair in love & war. | | Anyway, an interesting story that illustrates how easily duped the | media and public can be. | | ============================================================================ | | 486) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 5:37:03 am | | Jake> | I wish to retract the "All's fair in war" bit. I would like to see | rules of engagement observed, but it aint my sphere and I don't have | any influence. | | ============================================================================ | | 487) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 5:53:18 am | | gregy> | Jake....ahh...well...we had already figured out that you didn't mean | that phrase "maliciously"...... | .... | ummmm....I sorta have influence (along with others of my fellowcitizens | who might wanna get involved).... | ...I mean....I communicate....and...even sometimes see some change in | things going the way I suggested....he he...whether or not it was due | to my intervention is debatable, though..... | ... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 488) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 6:13:42 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://ngothelinh.tripod.com/Hue.html | | | ============================================================================ | | 489) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 7:00:38 am | URL | | gregy> | :)))))) .... | | http://www.mercatus.org/Publications/pubID.2691/pub_detail.asp | | | | ============================================================================ | | 490) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 8:24:37 pm | | Eric> | It's my opinion that the article on the amulances (#483) was so | poorly written that it did as much harm as good for the "fraud | cause". It was so drawn out and repetative and choppy and drawn | out and drawn out and drawn out and .... , that I found myself | aggravated at the author, just like I get aggravated at the | TV NEWS for their "tease" techniques, so I walk away. And | this criticism comes from me, one who finds it hard to cut | anything short. | | Jake, you have a point... anything "harmless" is appropriate | to stop stupid bloodshed and stop the polarization of the | world communities into opposing camps. However, it does | pique me when I'm shown that lies were presented as truths | by those that are sworn to accuracy. The problem is that | I stretch the truth... but... you lie. It's | OK to stretch the truth for my cause but you better be | honest ! | | | ============================================================================ | | 491) Thu, Aug 24, 2006 - 8:53:14 pm | | ray> | Rotten commies. Any respectable military would have incinerated the | entire city and everyone in it from the air without regard to | age, sex, color, creed or political beliefs. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 492) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 2:34:41 am | | Eric> | gregy, I harbor great animosity for anyone who would intentionally | try to run over an animal with a motorized vehicle. I also have | strong disagreement with anyone who thinks that a gun is the first | and best solution for resolving conflicts between Man and Nature. | | ============================================================================ | | 493) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 2:49:30 am | | Eric> | Re: #491 | Ray, What gives any "respectible military" the right to do | that ? And what would it accomplish except increase world | animosity for the "respectible military" ? | | | ============================================================================ | | 494) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 5:15:01 am | | Jake> | Ray's tongue was firmly in his cheek for that comment, methinks. | | ============================================================================ | | 495) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 6:38:43 am | | gregy> | Eric....hmmm....you don't like "guns"....???....well, then...how come | for your dislike for my chosing an "alternate weapon"...i.e. vehicle | ..???........ | ... | FWIW....you can go ahead and embrace vermin....I, on the other hand, | shall use any weapon I find at hand to eliminate them.....even to the | extent of hasting their evolutionary extinction...... | | | ============================================================================ | | 496) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 6:39:37 am | | gregy> | oops...."hastening their evolutionary extinction.." | | | | ============================================================================ | | 497) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 6:45:15 am | | gregy> | Eric.... | | "...that ? And what would it accomplish except increase world | animosity for the "respectible military" ?" | ... | ummmm....do you REALLY think that the purpose of any military | (respectible, or otherwise) is to "decrease world animosity"...???? | ... | ermmm...I think that'd kinda subtract from its original purpose of | fighting/winning battles... | ... | And, also, FWIW.....the success of any military (per history) has NOT | ever depended upon how much animosity the rest of the world has had | toward it.. | | | ============================================================================ | | 498) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 6:58:15 am | | glennmcc> | Just 2 days ago, I found that my trusty 30-06 was the perfect tool | for disposing of one of the groundhogs that have been undermining | my back porch. | | (photo of the damage in a min) | | ============================================================================ | | 499) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 7:04:00 am | URL | | glennmcc> | http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/bad-gophers!!!.jpg | | | ============================================================================ | | 500) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 9:38:50 am | | glennmcc> | Our beloved spammer hit The Other Place again just a few min ago :( | | Anonymous Fri Aug 25 15:21:11 2006 GMT | | | ============================================================================ | | 501) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 9:51:27 am | | Eric> | gregy, I did not say that I dislike guns... I dislike | killing. The good Lord did not say: "Here, I give | you dominion over all other forms of life... now... show | me how well you can destroy all other life forms." ... | or "You decide what forms of life you like and destroy | the rest." | | glennmcc, I suppose if your dog did the damage then | the best thing to do would be shoot your dog. | | ============================================================================ | | 502) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 1:43:04 pm | | ray> | Eric, | | As Jake surmized, I was being sarcastic. War makes a pig of everyone | eventualy, commies, Americans, Nazis ... even Canadians. The Hue | masacres, the fire-bombing of Tokyo, it all boils down to more or | less the same thing to me, an atrocity is an atrocity is an atrocity, | and the 'nobility' of your cause be damned. | | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 503) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 2:12:14 pm | | Eric> | Ray, I begrudgingly admit that the world isn't perfect... that | we don't know how to peacefully deal with A??h?les like suicide | bombers. On the other hand that doesn't mean we should give up ! | That also doesn't mean we should accept half truths and lies | from our news sources because their lies can cause as much or | more damage than the suicide bombers. | | ============================================================================ | | 504) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 5:13:53 pm | | glennmcc> | Eric, | | I _did_ shoot the dog... many years ago. | | That's why I now have just a cat. | | And she causes damage of that nature.... there's a bullet for her too. | | ============================================================================ | | 505) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 8:07:57 pm | | glennmcc> | Oh, almost forgot. | | "get rid of. I had one of those that I kept pouring gasoline | into it and lighting it on fire and the bees/yellow jackets" | | | So... | I guess that you don't consider burning creatures alive as 'killing' | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 506) Fri, Aug 25, 2006 - 11:32:53 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, I really didn't like burning the bees but they | insisted on following me around and biting me and I couldn't | stand any more bites. I also didn't want some other unsuspecting | person to get bit. If the hive was somewhere where I could have | knocked it down and let them build a new hive, I would have | done that. That's what I did last week. But when it's in the | ground then I couldn't do that. I tried covering up the hive | with a stump but that didn't work. The gas and fire was a last | ditch effort at self defense. I have live traps. | I would have trapped your woodchuck and released him down | in the woods/greenway by the x-way. Then if it is dumb enough | to try to sleep in or hitch hike on the x-way.... maybe gregy's | accomplices would get him. | | ============================================================================ | | 507) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 12:11:06 am | | Eric> | glennmcc, I had a name attached to me at summer camp... | I was known as "Eric, bring'em back alive..." and I have | always pretty much lived up to that moniker. I have never | caught or possessed any woodchucks myself but my dad was | slick enough to somehow catch them and put them into a | cat portaging cage. He didn't even use a trap. I never | saw exactly how he did it but he did it more than once. | Then he took them to the park and let them go to play | with the kids. | | Those ground hogs can really dig! I think if you could | train one that it could probably dig you a swimming pool | in a day or two. | | BTW, I had a good friend and neighbor that used guns | to solve some of his pest problems. He was a former | Navy man and learned and maintained computers in the | Navy. He ran his own computer setup and maintenance | business. About ten yrs. ago the fool sat down at his | desk and shot himself in the head. He left behind two | young kids and a wife. One thing for sure, when you | solve something with a gun the solution is final. | There is no "thinking things over" and picking a | better solution later on. | | ============================================================================ | | 508) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 4:07:57 am | | Eric> | gregy, you wrote: | | ummmm....do you REALLY think that the purpose of any military | (respectible, or otherwise) is to "decrease world animosity"...???? | ... | ermmm...I think that'd kinda subtract from its original purpose of | fighting/winning battles... | ... | And, also, FWIW.....the success of any military (per history) has NOT | ever depended upon how much animosity the rest of the world has had | toward it.. | | gregy, You are either miss interpreting what I meant... or... | twisting around what I wrote. I was not evaluating the | dependence of military success on world opinion. I never said | that the goal of the military was to decrease animosity. I do | believe that if Israel were to do as Ray suggested in his posting | that any support that Israel has enjoyed from other nations | would be severly curtailed. In the last century, any government | that has started an offensive war has found itself facing | the criticism of the rest of the free world, including | the USA in Iraq. You would find it hard to find a country/government | that would refute the priviledge of a government/country | to defend itself against invasion/attack. Israel claims it | is defending itself and except for the countries that are | supporting terrorism, the rest of the world has had to | reluctantly agree they have some reason for their stance. | If, however, Israel were to start behaving as Ray wrote, | then Israel would become the bad guy for indiscriminant | destruction and killing of innocents. Israel doesn't | want that image. It cannot afford such an image. That's | why this "ambulance bombing" has caused such a ruckus. | That's why we need to get Geraldo Rivera over there | to expose this hoax! | | | ============================================================================ | | 509) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 8:51:58 am | | ray> | Eric, | | I'm with you, every word bro. The BSers are almost as dangerous as | the bombers and yes, image matters, that's why the Israeliis don't | just wipe the Palistinians out once and for all so they can steal all | their land without any more fuss from the disposessed -- it would be | so much simpler, but then there is world oppinion ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 510) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 1:21:21 pm | | gregy> | ahh....Eric and Ray....I think you guys need to go study the HISTORY | of the middle east....instead of just sucking up the current hate-Israel | propoganda... | ... | Come back when you've done that, and we can start an intelligent | discussion... | .... | | | ============================================================================ | | 511) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 1:26:29 pm | | gregy> | Glenn...Re: 500....yes...he's still there...and I'm fixin to block him | ...but...I'm still in the throes of "homeowners delight"...now involved | in pulling a section of siding off my trailer to get at the last of the | steel drainpipe, etc, etc, etc.... | ... | My bad...I'm just not able to walk-and-chew-two-flavors-of-bubblegum- | at-the-same-time..... | ...... | | | | ============================================================================ | | Š 512) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 1:27:24 pm | | gregy> | Re:....498......30-06...?????...... | ...he he....bit of overkill, wasn't it....??? | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 513) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 1:34:32 pm | | gregy> | Eric.....the First Commandmant wasn't really the FIRST.... | ... | Commandant 1A was, "Now that you've let sin and death into the world, | go forth and kill vermin."..... | .... | ... | So, Cain immediately classified his little brother as "vermin"...and | the rest is history.... | .... | | ... | BE IT KNOWN.....I swat EVERY fly that enters my domain.....and I "swat" | every other "vermin" that comes within my perview...... | ...and...I don't care what means/weapon I use.... | ... | As for "bring it back alive"....well...I come from poor folks, and had | to start hunting cottontails for food when I was 8....and....I've found | that it's somewhat (slightly, minorly, etc) inconvenient to bring a big | buck deer, bull elk, even an antelope buck, "back alive"..... | ... | Not to mention black bear, griz, etc..... | ... | And...if it ain't etible...then it's just "vermin" and gets potshotted | and left for the other scavengers to make it disappear... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 514) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 2:26:06 pm | | Eric> | gregy, The history of the Middle East has nothing to do | with the current discussion. History has no bearing on | the image currently presented by Israel to the rest | of the world powers. History is a major factor in | achieving peace but it has little infuence on Israel's | image as an aggressor or a defender of their country. | We all know that the Arab countries had no love for | Israel, but... even they can't deny the suicide bombers | sent into Israel to kill innocent citizens...even they | can't deny Hasballah's unprovoced attacks against Isreal. | Even they can't deny the impotence of Lebanon's official | government in the control of Hasballah. Any country would | try to defend themselves against such attacks. There was | a time when world powers sought wars...it was considered | the normal way of life. Currently, wars of aggression are | frowned upon by the majority. So, any country which presents | an image of aggression gets chasized by the majority. Let's | hope and pray that striving for peace continues to prevail. | | I has very no b | | | ============================================================================ | | 515) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 2:31:41 pm | | Eric> | Last line of #514 ("I has very no be") is garbage hidden from | sight in the text box. | | gregy, BTW, has your name been changed to Moses ? | | | ============================================================================ | | 516) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 2:59:02 pm | | Eric> | gregy, You wrote: | | And...if it ain't etible...then it's just "vermin" and gets potshotted | and left for the other scavengers to make it disappear... | ... | | | I fail to see anything funny about that statement. | It's one thing to hunt for sustanence. But, needless, | haphazard killing is uncalled for and obnoxious. Those | that enjoy taking potshots at "vermin" and walk away | abandoning the carcass become vermin themselves. I am | very tired of tripping over litter left by obnoxious | despoilers of our streets and cities and countryside. | Put your cigarette butts in your pockets, don't throw | them on my sidewalk and parking lot for me to clean | up. Don't leave your "vermin" lying in front | of my house or in my parking lot for me to deal with. | I have a name for those who behave in such a way. | I refer to them as PIGS. PIGS promote vermin. | | ============================================================================ | | 517) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 3:39:33 pm | | ray> | Gregy, | | It's very hard to have an inteligent discussion of things Middle Eastern | even with a deep understanding of the history of the place, due to | the intractable way most people hold their views on that subject. | As for me, my father was there at the time of the formation of the | 'Zionist entity' and is currently writing a book on the subject. | My views are formed largely by juxtaposing what I've seen in the | media with what I have learned from his first hand experiences of the | time with what I've read about it in books. It is very possible | that I'm quite a bit more informed about it than you but have | infact seen throught the 'pro-Israel' propaganda that is absolutely | ubiquitous in our society. I don't take sides tho -- to me all | murders of the inocent are equal, whether by Hezbolla rockets or | by Israelii artillery. For the moment my sympathies lie with the | brutalized Palistinians however, if Isreal pulled back to it's | legal borders and started obaying internalional law (yes, I know | you don't believe in that, but I do) then I'd be quite solid in | my deffence of it's right to deffend itself against terror attacks. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 518) Sat, Aug 26, 2006 - 6:51:24 pm | | glennmcc> | Gregy, | | As to the 30-06 being 'overkill'. | | Nope.... dead is dead... no mater what weapon you use. | | Sometimes in the past when I've used the .22 .... it took 2 or 3 shots | to kill a groundhog. (if it was far enough away from its hole to get | that 2nd or 3rd shot before making it into its hole) | | With the 30-06 ... one shot is all it takes. | (same goes for those times when I use the .308 ... 1 shot == 1 dead vermin) | | ============================================================================ | | 519) Sun, Aug 27, 2006 - 7:25:32 am | | Eric> | glennmcc, I would guess that you collect fewer spectators, | however, when you use the .22 . | | ============================================================================ | | 520) Sun, Aug 27, 2006 - 1:22:56 pm | | glennmcc> | 2 or 3 .22 shots collects more spectators than the single 30-06 shot. | | | ============================================================================ | | 521) Mon, Aug 28, 2006 - 8:59:28 am | | glennmcc> | gregy Thu Aug 24 07:21:37 2006 GMT | hmmm....maybe he's quit | | gregy Thu Aug 24 07:25:12 2006 GMT | We can hope.......I'm looking at the script...and I'll try | to disable that..... | ... | | No such luck :( | | This is the 1st of 62 more times he did it after you made those posts. :((( | | Anonymous Thu Aug 24 13:26:41 2006 GMT | Cool site. Thanks. | | ============================================================================ | | 522) Mon, Aug 28, 2006 - 9:01:16 am | | glennmcc> | This most recent one was just over 1hr ago :((( | | Anonymous Mon Aug 28 13:57:09 2006 GMT | Nice site. Thanks. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 523) Mon, Aug 28, 2006 - 9:39:48 am | | glennmcc> | And yet another one only 17min ago :((( | | Anonymous Mon Aug 28 15:22:18 2006 GMT | Very good site. Thank you. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 524) Mon, Aug 28, 2006 - 1:33:06 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, Re: The Other Place - Looks to me that it maybe | some sort of automated program making those anonymous posts. | Like some turdhead has collected a list of sites to harass. | Whoever it is, needs to get flushed ! | | ============================================================================ | | 525) Mon, Aug 28, 2006 - 4:27:02 pm | | glennmcc> | Yep... that's my impression too.... that it's an automated program. | | The person running the program _and_ the person who wrote the program | _both_ should be flushed. | | ============================================================================ | | 526) Mon, Aug 28, 2006 - 8:13:21 pm | | glennmcc> | Joke Of The Day: | The Crowded Store... | | It was the day of the big sale. Rumors of the sale | (and some advertising in the local paper) were the | main reason for the long line that formed by 8:30, | the store's opening time, in front of the store. | | A small man pushed his way to the front of the line, | only to be pushed back, amid loud and colurful curse. | | On the man's second attempt, he was punched square in the jaw, | and knocked around a bit, and then thrown at the end of the line again. | | As he got up, he said to the person at the end of the line, | "That does it! If they hit me one more time, I won't open the store!" | | | ============================================================================ | | 527) Mon, Aug 28, 2006 - 11:09:36 pm | | gregy> | Guys....my apologies for not dealing with "The Other Place" right away | ....I'm real busy with "home improvements" and some subsidiary things | thrown in.... | ... | What I've just done is disable the chatscript by renaming it.....NOTE | ...this is only a temporary ad hoc move, and it gives me a couple days | to try the suggestions that both Glenn and Jake have given me.... | ... | Please be patient.....I am very distracted with other things, right | now... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 528) Mon, Aug 28, 2006 - 11:32:33 pm | | gregy> | Ray...Re: | "the intractable way most people hold their views on that subject. | | ....time with what I've read about it in books. It is very possible | that I'm quite a bit more informed about it than you but have..." | | Well, that's possible....but if that's true, then you have become | misinformed about it... | ... | NOTE - | 1. I've studied the thing since 1948....you have to remember that I | was a VERY percocious child.... | Without going into the details, whys and whatfors....I took it into my | little head to study the thing when the first Israeli War broke out | when the arabs refused to accept the partitioning and decided to wipe | the Jews off the map. | ... | I don't know what your father says/wrote...but he cannot have ignored | the murderous intent to destroy both the "Zionist Entity" and all the | Jews that were there. This is a matter of RECORDED HISTORY...and if | your dad is saying/writing something different, then I'm sorry...I can | quote volumnous chapter and verse - from the arabs OWN lips/writings/etc | - to prove that....as can many others who've already recounted it. | | 2. My study of the matter initially covered this past century | (1900-now)...then went back thru the Ottomans, back to the Middle Ages | then Medieval Times, then pre/post Muslim conquest, then Roman Times, | then Macedonian/Greek times, then Persian Times, then Babylonian Times, | then Assyrian Times, then Egyptian Times, all the way back.... | | 3. My studies (and many other studies too numerous to reference here, | but they're all available on the web or in books/papers) show that the | Jews have had a continuous presence in that land since before 1000 B.C. | and the present-day so-called "palestinians" had no national presence | there at all. They were just a bunch who wandered into the area and | capitalized on the renewed prosperity that the returning Jews brought | to the land... | | 4. The "palestinians" DO have their own state, and have had for many | years....it's called Jordan.... | | 5. The current "palestinians" are a mixture of the offspring of some | arabs who left the territory of the new state of Israel in 1948, when | they believed the promises of the surrounding arabs that they would | soon crush the Israelis and divvy up their goods/lands/women to them | after they had crushed/slaughtered the Jews.. | ..so much for their chances....and those "palestinians" were cheated | by all the surrounding arabs (supposedly their "brothers") who stashed | them into "refugee camps" (more like concentration camps) and kept them | there, endlessly, as stateless persons - e.g. a good friend of mine, | Ghassan Khanafani, the editor of El Muherer in Beirut - told me of all | the hopelessness that was endemic in ALL those camps, and in the general | refugee population....but...this was caused by the aurrounding arabs, | NOT by the Israelis.... | ... | 6. Oh, forget about it...there's too much to argue about, and it ALL | points to the cause of the "troubles"....the bitter arab hatred for the | Jews, and the acquiescence of the feckless Europeans in that hatred. | ... | | ============================================================================ | | 529) Mon, Aug 28, 2006 - 11:42:18 pm | | gregy> | Ray....Re: | "...brutalized Palistinians however, if Isreal pulled back to it's | legal borders and started obaying internalional law (yes, I know | you don't believe in that, but I do) then I'd be quite solid in | my deffence of it's right to deffend itself against terror attacks." | | That's amazing, that statement there..!!! How could you make that | statment..??? | ... | Haven't you even been reading ANYTHING these past few weeks...??? | ... | Who started that fighting in southern Lebanon...??? You think that | the Israelis did...?? | ... | Boy...you sure misread even the MLSM, if you do.... | ... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 530) Tue, Aug 29, 2006 - 3:46:44 am | | gregy> | okay guys...temporary fix to "The Other Place"... | ... | Launch your usual link, and when the "Not Found" page returns....edit | the URL by putting a "z" between the filename and the extension... | ... | e.g. filename.ext == filenamez.ext | ... | It's working now....you can't get there from any of the links on the | other pages....meaning that the spammer can't just click on a link on | the main pages to reach the new script.... | ... | We'll see if this fix holds....and maybe change the other pages sometime | in the future... | | | ============================================================================ | | 531) Tue, Aug 29, 2006 - 4:26:59 pm | | glennmcc> | Gregy, | | I'm a pearl newbie so this might not work. | | But if I understand correctly, this one change will disable anonymous | posting capability. | | $chatname = "Anonymous" if ($chatname eq ''); | | Change to simply ......... | | if ($chatname eq ''); | | That _should_ do the trick. | | ============================================================================ | | 532) Tue, Aug 29, 2006 - 11:03:22 pm | | ray> | | | Gregy, | Hmmm, well I know better, but your points draw me into | debate: | | Well, that's possible....but if that's true, then | you have become | misinformed about it... | | In your humble opinion. Or not. I don't know about you | but I don't consider the information I've been able to | gather on any subject to be infalible, I hope you take | a similar stance. Maybe it's you who is misinformed. | | Israeli War broke out | when the arabs refused to accept the partitioning | and decided to wipe | the Jews off the map. | | I respond with a question: Do you know what the two | blue lines on the Israeli flag represent? | | ... | I don't know what your father says/wrote...but he | cannot have ignored | the murderous intent to destroy both the "Zionist | Entity" and all the | Jews that were there. This is a matter of | RECORDED HISTORY...and if | | See below. | | 2. My study of the matter initially covered this | past century | (1900-now)...then went back thru the Ottomans, | back to the Middle Ages | then Medieval Times, then pre/post Muslim | conquest, then Roman Times, | then Macedonian/Greek times, then Persian Times, | then Babylonian Times, | then Assyrian Times, then Egyptian Times, all the | way back.... | | He he, gotta agree with you there, it's one heck of a | long story -- that wretched land has probably been booted | around by more empires than any patch of dirt on the | planet. | | 3. My studies (and many other studies too | numerous to reference here, | but they're all available on the web or in | books/papers) show that the | Jews have had a continuous presence in that land | since before 1000 B.C. | | Right, there have always been Jews in Palestine, I agree. | Now, you claim above that the Arabs intended to murder all | the Jews because of their deep hatred of them right? So how | is it that although that land was under almost continuous | Muslim/Arab control for 1400 years, there have always been | Jews there if the Arabs hate them so much and were in a | possition to do whatever they wanted for so long? How is it | that Jerusalem has had a Jewish Quarter for 1400 years? | | Fact is, that Islam has until recently tolerated both Jews | and Christians throughout the Umma. It's not until the | massive and illegal swamping of Palestine by the Jews after | WWII that the Arabs had any desire to fight back -- as would | anyone who's land was being stolen. | | and the present-day so-called "palestinians" had | no national presence | there at all. They were just a bunch who wandered | into the area and | capitalized on the renewed prosperity that the | returning Jews brought | to the land... | | That is such Bullshit. Sorry but that is not only a lie, | it's a stupid lie. Who is dumb enough to believe that | Palestine was empty of Arabs until the Jew's prosperity | induced them to 'wander in'? There are Palistinians | who can document their family histories in | Palistine going back a millenium. If the land was | empty of Arabs, then who was it that was involved in | all that fighting in 1945-8? Funny that so very many | Arabs 'wandered in' in so few years to spunge off the Jews | but then decided to murder them insead. My Dad knew lots of | Palistinians who sure seemed like they'd been there | for a long time, what with family graveyards showing | 10 generations. | | 4. The "palestinians" DO have their own state, | and have had for many | years....it's called Jordan.... | | They don't see it that way, but let's have it your | way. OK, then if you check the map you will see that | the West Bank is part of Jordan legaly. Either way, the | WB is occupied land and the Israelis should damn well | give it back. | | 5. The current "palestinians" are a mixture of | the offspring of some | arabs who left the territory of the new state of | Israel in 1948, when | they believed the promises of the surrounding | arabs that they would | soon crush the Israelis and divvy up their | goods/lands/women to them | after they had crushed/slaughtered the Jews.. | | They left because they were thrown out by the invading | Jews and it's just that simple. The 'promises' made | by the surrownding Arabs were simply that the latter would | help the former to regain their homes. Why on earth would | they leave in the first place if they didn't have to? | But, yes, the Arabs do have a spectacular tradition of | betraying each other, no doubt about that. | | ..so much for their chances....and those | "palestinians" were cheated | by all the surrounding arabs (supposedly their | "brothers") who stashed | them into "refugee camps" (more like concentration | camps) and kept them | there, endlessly, as stateless persons - e.g. a | | But they don't see themselves as stateless, they see themselve | as displaced Palistinians, which is what they are. | | good friend of mine, | Ghassan Khanafani, the editor of El Muherer in | Beirut - told me of all | the hopelessness that was endemic in ALL those | camps, and in the general | refugee population....but...this was caused by the | aurrounding arabs, | NOT by the Israelis.... | | So the invading Jews had nothing to do with it eh? | Ever heard of the Irgun, the Stearn Gang, etc? Seems to | me the invaders had quite a bit to do with the refugee | problem. Have you read Ben-Gurion's autobiograhpy? | He was a bit more honest than you, he said that | the Jews needed a homeland and that they were going to | conquer Palestine to get it, and that if they had to | disposses the current residents, then that was just | tough for them because the need of the Jews outweighed | the needs of the Arabs. Personaly I think his case | sounds far better when put forward as honestly as | he did, it sure beats the BS about there being | no one there, or the Arabs leaving their homes | because they wanted them back (plus Jewish goods and | women). | | Ray....Re: | "...brutalized Palistinians however, if Isreal | pulled back to it's | legal borders and started obaying internalional | law (yes, I know | you don't believe in that, but I do) then I'd be | quite solid in | my deffence of it's right to deffend itself | against terror attacks." | | That's amazing, that statement there..!!! How | could you make that | statment..??? | ... | Haven't you even been reading ANYTHING these past | few weeks...??? | ... | Who started that fighting in southern | Lebanon...??? You think that | the Israelis did...?? | | Oh, ya, Hezbolla started this latest round, no doubt about that. | But what's your point? Israel is still in violation of international | law in a dozen ways, esp. the occupation of the West Bank. AFTER | they start obeying international law, THEN, as far as I'm conserned | they can kick the shit out of Hezbolla all they want. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 533) Wed, Aug 30, 2006 - 4:30:27 pm | | Jake> | Not, I hope, if it means the use of cluster bombs | along with the rest of their "legal" military might. | There's other folks besides Hezbollah in Lebanon. | That's what's outraged us in the UK - how what should | have been a police action degenerates into a military | attack against civillian areas. The US coverage shown | on the BBC 24-hour news (where they slot in 30 minutes | from ABC every few hours) was laughable with its focus | on what was happening within Israel. Anyone would think | the US media was owned by Jews... | | ============================================================================ | | 534) Wed, Aug 30, 2006 - 6:34:25 pm | | ray> | Quitet Jake, pointing out that the Jews contol a huge hunk of | what we are alowed to see is a crime here in Kanistan and I don't want | to be caught talking to such people . | | Yeah, it would be nice if the Israelis seemed to give a fig who | they kill. Sure, Hez' probably does use civillian shields but some | humanitarian restraint on Israel's part would be civilized. As it is | the rule seems to be that if there are, say, hospitals in the way | of some Hez' types -- too bad for the hospital. | | | ============================================================================ | | 535) Wed, Aug 30, 2006 - 6:38:01 pm | | ray> | What I'm really saying is that I support Israel's right to exist and | to be secure and to defend itself. I don't support it's 'right' to | steal land nor to brutalize an occupied people or to kill anyone they | want. A descent, civilized, law abiding Israel would have my full | support in every way. Any sympathy I have for the Palistinians or the | Arabs in general is a bit reluctant but, for the moment, necessary. | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 536) Fri, Sep 01, 2006 - 5:41:21 pm | | Jake> | Eric, my post to FreeLists didn't turn up yet, so here's the gist: | | At this point, I think you need to identify your mobo or | more specifically whether it is PCI-BIOS v2.1 or above. | | Try the CT BIOS ID utility (in German, but you'll decipher | what you need) from: | | ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/ctbios15.zip 87kB | | It'll run in DOS or a Doze DOS box, and show the PCI-BIOS | on the ninth line of results. | | If it reports lower than v2.1 then it's no-go for the PCI | USB card with your current setup :-( | | ============================================================================ | | 537) Sat, Sep 02, 2006 - 10:45:48 am | | Eric> | Hi Jake, | I sent the results of ctbios.exe to the Freelist. | If you didn't get it let me know and I'll re-send it. | The short answer is Yes, I do have PCI-BIOS v2.1 . | | ============================================================================ | | 538) Sat, Sep 02, 2006 - 2:04:24 pm | | Jake> | Cheers, dunno why my mail is taking so long to show up there, but | I replied: | | > PCI-BIOS gefunden : Version 02.10, 32-Bit-PCI-BIOS Revision:0 | | Fingers X-ed, that should be sufficient... | | You should get the latest driver for the USB card: | | http://www.belkin.com/support/download/downloaddetails.asp?lang_id=1&file_id | | U2V241.EXE 455kB | | Uninstall the current driver, assuming it installed. | | Check Control Panel -> System -> Device Manager -> Universal | Serial Bus controllers and remove anything that may be there. | | Switch off, unplug, remove the USB card. | | Start her up, install the driver. Probably best to reboot. | | Switch off, unplug, fit the USB card. | | Start her up and with luck and a fair wind the USB card will | be recognized. | | As ever, good luck! | | | | ============================================================================ | | 539) Mon, Sep 04, 2006 - 12:44:42 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16799 | | ============================================================================ | | 540) Mon, Sep 04, 2006 - 1:19:47 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20332352-601,00.html | | ============================================================================ | | 541) Mon, Sep 04, 2006 - 9:54:30 am | | ray> | The Jews are smart, no question about that. What with Semitic | roots and 2000 years of Europeanization and the rigorous | 'survival of the fittest' that they have been subjected to, it's | hardly surprising. Then there is the unlimited money they have | at their disposal. The Sephardic (sp?) Jews on the other hand | look and act and think just like Arabs. | | So does this give them the right to steal other peoples land? | Heck, they could buy (wholesale of course!) the entire middle | east legaly for less money than they've spent on wars trying to | steal it. Hmmm, then again, they get other people to pay for the | latter, so maybe it does make sense after all. BTW the 1936 | census of Palistine showed the pop being 6% Jewish, with the | rest Arabs (not sure if the colonial Brits were included or not). | Seems that for every rich Jew, 19 Arabs 'wandered in'. | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 542) Mon, Sep 04, 2006 - 2:11:07 pm | | glennmcc> | If I understand that correctly. | | The population of 'Palistine' consists of.... | | 6% Jews (originally from Isreal ??) | 94% Arabs | and ZERO 'Palistinians' ???????????? | | ============================================================================ | | 543) Mon, Sep 04, 2006 - 3:59:28 pm | | ray> | Not exactly, even in '36 the bulk of the Jews counted were already | refugees from Europe. As for the Arabs, I'm speaking *ethnicaly*. | Politicaly they were Palistinians as were, indeed, the Jews at | that time. Though of course Palestine was never an idependant nation, | it was a province of the old Ottoman Empire and the Brits considered | it to be a useful political description of the area -- not Lebanon, | not Egypt, not Jordan so ... Palistine. They'd already set up a | distinctly non Palistinian king in Jordan which is exactly why the | Palistinians aren't Jordanians (tho they have tried to invade the | place and throw out the monarchy and make it into a true Palistinian | state, rather like Grey says it already is. | | ============================================================================ | | 544) Mon, Sep 04, 2006 - 4:04:17 pm | | ray> | The worst lies often have a wee bit of truth in them, and it is | true that before about the 20's, Palistine had more or less gone | to hell, the population was low, lot's of people (including the | first wave of Zionists) had left the place, there were locust | plagues, malaria was rampant. So it is true that in the 30's | a lot of Arabs 'wandered in' -- coming back to their old homes, not | following the Jews. Strange, tho how a Jew just off the boat | from Poland would look to an Arab and accuse him of not belonging | there ;-) | | | | ============================================================================ | | 545) Wed, Sep 06, 2006 - 1:38:41 pm | URL | | gregy> | | http://climatesci.atmos.colostate.edu/2006/09/06/kilimanjaro/ | | ============================================================================ | | 546) Wed, Sep 06, 2006 - 4:46:47 pm | URL | | Jake> | http://climatesci.atmos.colostate.edu/main-conclusions/ | | ============================================================================ | | 547) Sun, Sep 10, 2006 - 8:50:34 pm | | gregy> | Glenn...Re: your "groundhog" or "woodchuck" and my comment that your | 30-06 was "perhaps a bit of overkill"....ermmmm....having today done a | bit of googling....I find: | 1. You are probably talking about a different creature than our | "gophers"....(i.e. True Gophers and Richardson's/Franklin's Ground | Squirrels), which are quite small and we easily dispatch them with .22 | rounds. | 2. It seems you might be talking about "marmots" which are larger, and | more properly denoted by "groundhog" than are our "gophers".... | 3. We also have marmots out here (mostly close to the mountains) which | we call "Mormon Whistlers" (aka Whistling Marmots)......these I could | see myself using something larger than a .22 on..... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 548) Sun, Sep 10, 2006 - 10:08:34 pm | | ray> | You got marmots out there Glenn? Now I expect Gregy to know them | critters, like I do but back East? | | | ============================================================================ | | 549) Sun, Sep 10, 2006 - 10:37:29 pm | | gregy> | Ray...well, his can NOT be our ordinary little ground-squirrel "gophers" | ,....or he wouldn't be shooting them with an 06........and... | if you google on "groundhog" or "woodchuck"...you'll see they're range | is even east of the Mississippi....so....I'd think what he termed a | "gopher" and "groundhog" must be a larger critter than our normal little | gophers....and....we've also got the larger marmots up around the | mountains... | | | ============================================================================ | | 550) Sun, Sep 10, 2006 - 11:19:34 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, Our groundhogs/woodchucks are generally | pretty good size...about the size of a small to medium | adult raccoon, I would say. | | | ============================================================================ | | 551) Sun, Sep 10, 2006 - 11:29:47 pm | | Eric> | I would estimate the opening to a goundhog burrow is usually | 4-5 inches in diameter. They are larger than the little ground | squirrels I used to feed out in Yellowstone and Glacier Park | campgrounds. | | ============================================================================ | | 552) Sun, Sep 10, 2006 - 11:36:39 pm | | gregy> | Eric....hmmmm....I suspect that those "little ground squirrels" you | fed were regular squirrels and chipmunks......our "ground squirrels" | are out on the more flat prairies and live in "prairiedog towns"... | (i.e. groups of burrows spread out over an acre or two)....they aren't | the "feeding" types, such as you find over in the mountains around the | parks..... | ... | We DO also have the bigger "whistling marmots" (which also live in | "burrowtowns" - usually around/in rocky ground, which prairiedogs avoid) | ...so... | I suppose what you and Glenn are referring to as "groundhogs" would be | our "marmots"..... | ... | This would tallie up with the info I googled out, earlier... | | | ============================================================================ | | 553) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 1:50:57 am | | Eric> | Gregy, From what I've seen of Marmots and Prairiedogs | they tend to be smaller than Groundhogs. I think of | groundhogs to be more like Beaver size, but without | the large flat tail. The critters I was feeding in my | peregrinations out in the North West were mostly larger | than chipmunk and red/grey squirrel size. There were | several varieties. I do remember one time when my mother | was wearing a pair of slacks and was sitting on a stone | wall, perhaps at a scenic outlook, when she suddenly | let out a scream. It seems that she had one foot on top | of the stone wall and a chipmunk suddenly ran along | the wall and up her leg inside her pants leg. My mother | was not a screamer and had no fear of critters but she | definitely didn't like that chipmunk inside her pants | leg. The chipmunk also decided it had made a mistake | and rapidly departed for safer turf. | | | ============================================================================ | | 554) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 2:25:10 am | | Eric> | Gregy, There was a documentary on TV that showed this | guy who had a this big, special, vaccum/sucking machine | that he used to suck up prairie dogs from their burrows. | It was rather humorous to watch the prarie dogs as they | came whipping out of the sucking hose. I bet they ain't | got no rides like that at Disney World. The pairie dogs | were then transported to some new habitat. | | ============================================================================ | | 555) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 3:13:50 am | | gregy> | Eric....but....those "sucked up" gophers were the little ones, and they | didn't survive the experience..........I mean...if they weren't | immediately killed by the "ride" they were quickly dispatched... | ... | Maybe they said they "were then transported to some new habitat"...but | I know all about that invention, and have seen that one, or one just | like it in use, and the only "new habitat" they were transported to | was a dump-grave...where their bodies were dumped and covered by a | bulldozer....like other dead vermin... | .... | Maybe the TV show showed someone non-lethally vacuuming them, but the | other ones, the ones I know about, were/are all exterminator type | operations... | | | ============================================================================ | | 556) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 8:22:31 am | URL | | glennmcc> | http://www.eagle.ca/ipg/gopher.html | | | ============================================================================ | | 557) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 8:25:35 am | URL | | glennmcc> | This is the variety which is infesting the underside of my back porch... | | http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/lex_exotics/woodchuck.html | | | | ============================================================================ | | 558) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 8:31:55 am | | glennmcc> | The one I killed with the 30-06 was an average sized male | about 18" long (not inc. the tail, about 24" inc. tail), | and wieghing-in at about 15 lbs. | | A large female is about that same length but wieghs-in at about 20 lbs. | | ============================================================================ | | 559) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 1:13:25 pm | URL | | Jake> | Gopher vacuum? | | http://thecia.com.au/reviews/w/images/wallace-and-gromit-curse-of-the-werera | | | ============================================================================ | | 560) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 2:11:21 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, That second picture/page is a good one | of a Marmota Monax. Based on the way they sit on the | edge of the road trying to thumb rides...at least | that looks like what they're doing...they aren't | very smart. I figure they're about as dumb as the | bicyclists that try to prove that they have a right | to use the road by riding in the traffic lane and | refusing to yield right of way. Neither the marmot | nor the bicyclists seem to understand the laws of | physics or human nature. They seem to ignore the | fact that often the drivers can't see them until | it's too late...even if the drivers aren't busy | on their cell phones...and...the rest of the | drivers are aimimg for them. Please, understand, | this post is written by a bicyclist who has been | riding bicycles since he was 6 yrs. old and I never | had training wheels. | | Glenn, have you tried flooding the marmots out | from under your porch with a garden hose? That's | what my father used to do before he would catch | them and give them to the park. Then he would | fill the holes with dirt and rocks. Those critters | like soft soil for digging and my dad's place was on | sandy soil so he had those critters. They seem to | favor digging under concrete foundations and garage | slabs, etc. | | ============================================================================ | | 561) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 2:23:16 pm | | Eric> | Jake, Great picture.....that's the idea but the | gopher vac was not so fancy.....it had a landing net | of sorts that caught the critters as they flew out | of the vac tube. It was more like the big truck vacs | I see used for cleaning out furnace ducts with a long | flexible snakey type hose. | | ============================================================================ | | 562) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 2:57:31 pm | | Eric> | >Spammer's 9-year sentence upheld - TechSpot News< | | >Spammer's 9-year sentence upheld< | >By Justin Mann, TechSpot.com< | >Published: September 6, 2006, 8:47 PM< | | > Nine years is what he got, and nine years is what he'll serve | | href="http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8JUT7CG0.htm | | for a recently convicted notorious spammer who lost his appeal. | Rated amongst the top 10 spammers in the world, Jeremy Jaynes, | who peddled "sham" products as well as various other scams was | raking in around $750,000 a month when he was caught, and the | court has upheld his 9 year jail term for his crimes. In its | unanimous ruling, the appeals court wrote that Virginia has a | "legitimate public interest" in policing unsolicited e-mail | and that the state anti-spamming law's impact on interstate | commerce "is incidental and clearly not excessive." He was | caught last year, and despite his pleas and promises that he | "won't do it again", but the court wasn't ready to hear it. | While he may appeal again in the future, for now one of the | world's worst spammers will be behind bars. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 563) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 3:19:08 pm | | gregy> | Glenn....yes...those are the ones I suspected hadda be the one that you | 06ed........but...some of that vermin, we "let | live"....... | | | ============================================================================ | | 564) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 3:24:31 pm | | gregy> | Jake...he he...now where did whomever built THAT contraption...??? | ... | .. | As Eric said...our gophervacs are more utilitarian.... | ... | Also...we have machines that you mount/load in the back of your pickup | that pump propane (or acetylene) and oxygen down gopher holes, then | you "touch it off" and blow up the whole mess.....really nifty...and it | collapses the burrows, makes mulch/fertilizer out of the gophers, and | buries them, all at the same time..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 565) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 4:28:49 pm | | glennmcc> | Now *** THAT'S *** what I need. | | Where do I git me one of them suckas ??? | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 566) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 6:08:56 pm | | gregy> | Most of them, around here, are "home built"........however, I did | see advertisements for offerings from two companies...somewhere...I | can't remember where....but it was during my googling-gophers session. | .... | However (youknewthiswascomingdidn'tyou?)....however....if 'em 'ittle | hoosiers....oops..make that buckeyes....are infesting "under" your back | porch...I really, REALLY do think that the Va-VA-boOOOOOMMMM!!!! machine | would be overkill...... | ... | It's best used far out in the "back 40" far from the farmstead buildings | ..... | | | ============================================================================ | | Š 567) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 6:12:45 pm | | glennmcc> | Yep, you're probably right... a big Va-VA-boOOOOOMMMM!!!! might just make | the back porch go bye-bye along with the groundhogs. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 568) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 6:33:33 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, Ppppplllllease....let me know when you | plan to use the Vvvvrooom method and give me ample | time to get there. I want to be within binocular | range when you implement ignition. That will be | a spectacular event, I'm sure. That might even | create the first woodchuck astronaut or more likely | a "woodchucknic" satellite. Of course, you were | planning a new porch anyway. | | | ============================================================================ | | 569) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 6:38:21 pm | | glennmcc> | With all the damage those little ba***rds have done... I might as-well | just build a whole new porch anyways. | | And putting the existing porch in orbit along with the groundhogs | sure would be an exciting way to start the project. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 570) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 6:47:45 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, BTW, you got your terminology mixed up. | That Va..va..boom machine ain't no "sucka". It's the | opposite...it's a "blower" if ever there was one. | However, I can imagine someone using the expression, | "That sucks" when suveying the aftermath. | | ============================================================================ | | 571) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 6:49:39 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, I got it......howabout a new swimmingf pool. hehehe | | | ============================================================================ | | 572) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 6:59:41 pm | | glennmcc> | Ah HA !!!! | | Great idea !!! | | Who needs a porch anyways when a pool would be much nicer ? | | | | ============================================================================ | | 573) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 8:24:11 pm | | ray> | Sheesh, what have these varmints done? I though they just dug | holes, so who cares if there are holes under the porch? I just | have some misconseptions about groundhogs. Can't you | poison them? Not DDT of course, that's good for the little | bastards ;-) | | | ============================================================================ | | 574) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 9:03:52 pm | | Eric> | Ray, You have obviously never seen the holes these | critters dig. These babies build bunkers, man! The | holes undermine the foundation. And , as far as the | DDT, it's all in the dosage. Also, it's hard to dig | with and upset stomach. hehehe I understand it was | in a ground hog bunker that they found Saddam Hussein. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 575) Mon, Sep 11, 2006 - 9:08:08 pm | | gregy> | hmmmm....DDT..???...actually...that has been found to be healthy for | mice and rats (lab experiments - moderate doses).....so...I expect that | gophers would THRIVE on it..... | ... | Re:...waddidtheyeverdo..???.....hmmmmm....I'd invite you out here to | try to ride a horse thru their "dogtowns" or even try to walk thru, | yourself....or try to drive thru.... | ....they really chew the ground up..... | ... | ..and...they're a driving hazard........I mean...get one of the | stupid things mashed on the highway (which they seem to wanna do for | themselves - deathwish.???)....and you'll soon have a nice slick stretch | of road.....not from the original martyr, mind you....but from all the | follow-on twerps, of which there'll be a plethora - because the varmints | still in the fields/ditches, can't resist the smell of "fresh mashed | gopher blood and guts" and they all dash out to cannibalize the first | one mashed...whereupon they get mashed, whereupon, etc etc... | ... | Actually...mashing one on the road ends up being about as efficient a | control method as "burrow-sucking" or "burrow-blowing"....just a bit | slower, and more hazardous to drivers..... | ... | I guess we could post highway signs, "Gopher Mashing - Next 13.2 miles" | ...or sumpin.... | | | ============================================================================ | | 576) Tue, Sep 12, 2006 - 6:19:36 am | URL | | gregy> | http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/jonah081806.php3 | | | ============================================================================ | | 577) Tue, Sep 12, 2006 - 11:48:21 am | | Eric> | Gregy, Did you read Mitch Albom at the JWR link you posted in #576 above. | | | ============================================================================ | | 578) Tue, Sep 12, 2006 - 11:20:11 pm | | gregy> | Ah...these hi-line servers are back up..... | ... | Eric....I don't think I did....I'll go back and catch him... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 579) Tue, Sep 12, 2006 - 11:26:27 pm | | gregy> | Yes...Eric...thanks for the reminder.... | ... | I agree with him....but...I'm afraid that 9/11 wasn't the first time | I had my illusory-bubble popped.....:((( | | | ============================================================================ | | 580) Tue, Sep 12, 2006 - 11:34:28 pm | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110008928 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 581) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 1:46:45 am | | Eric> | Gregy, Re: Previous link - Boy, there it is in a nutshell... | That author has a firm grasp on the obvious...which seems to | be obviously ignored by a large majority of the Nay-sayers | who's objections smell like they're speaking from the "end" | most distant from their mouths. | | ============================================================================ | | 582) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 2:16:09 am | | gregy> | I usually try to catch Fadhil, whenever he's (or his brother, Omar) on | OpinionJournal.... | ... | For one thing....these are guys who're indigenous and THERE...and, also, | they're pretty articulate...... | | | ============================================================================ | | 583) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 5:09:43 pm | URL | | gregy> | | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEAD_PIGEONS?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&T | | | | ============================================================================ | | 584) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 5:19:28 pm | URL | | gregy> | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51953 | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51955 | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51956 | | | ============================================================================ | | 585) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 5:29:12 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, Those pidgeons were probably just commiting suicide | because there eggs got soft from the DDT they were fed. | Notice that no name was given to the pesticide. | Also, interesting that my one time stomping ground of | Schenectady was mentioned. Reminds me of "WKRP in Cincinatti" | when they released live turkeys from the 'copter over | the shopping mall. | | ============================================================================ | | 586) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 5:32:16 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, Post#584 link doesn't work here. | | | ============================================================================ | | 587) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 5:52:01 pm | | ray> | Nor here, get 'can't open connection'. | | | ============================================================================ | | 588) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 5:54:33 pm | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_091306/content/america_s_anchorm | | ============================================================================ | | 589) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 5:57:11 pm | URL | | gregy> | ummmm...those WND links....try them again, later....they appear to be | having interrmittant problems with their servers. | .... | Re: Pigeons.....well...I thought the story was pretty funny...I mean.. | ...pigeons "raining/nosediving" from the sky..... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 590) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 6:16:13 pm | | Eric> | Re: Pidgeons...Gregy, I agree...hehehe...about the same | as turkeys that can't fly dropping on peoples' heads | at the shopping mall...hehehe. | | ============================================================================ | | 591) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 6:22:35 pm | | gregy> | Eric...I've actually seen that...or its "olden-days" equivalent.... | ...I mean....when I was a kid, in smalltown Montana, one (or more) | Thanksgivings, they dropped live turkeys from the top of buildings in | downtown, to give the kids a "turkey chase" (an free Thanksgiving | turkey).... | ... | he he he....I mean...you never saw more flying feathers and turkey | sh*t in your life...... | .... | | | ============================================================================ | | 592) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 6:22:57 pm | | Eric> | I was attacked by a mother bluejay when my wife insisted I | had to protect some baby bluejays from the neighbor's | cat. It isn't any fun being dive bombed by a bird... | it draws blood, man. | | | ============================================================================ | | 593) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 6:23:18 pm | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/688fmeac.a | | | ============================================================================ | | 594) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 6:33:37 pm | URL | | gregy> | he he...I just let my cats "take care of the problem"...... | | | ============================================================================ | | 595) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 6:42:59 pm | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2356878,00.html | http://images.thetimes.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,340325,00.jpg | | | | ============================================================================ | | 596) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 6:51:21 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, That must have been some mess. That sounds like | something some of the "organizer women" at our church | would have dreamed up. When I was a young teen my mother | was driving a gang of us youngsters from church to some | function when the pastor's daughter, about my age, described | how some of the women along with the pastor's wife were | painting the women's restroom with a can of pink spray | paint. These women were the"high society", definitely | not painters. The paint nossle got clogged so they decided | to open the spray can with a can opener. I can still see the tears | running down my mother's face as she laughed as the story | was told. As I recall, she had to pull over and stop to | avoid having an accident. Of course there were alot of | pink painted women as well as other stuff that didn't | need painting. | | ============================================================================ | | 597) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 6:59:17 pm | URL | | gregy> | | http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2431467 | | | ============================================================================ | | 598) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 7:00:56 pm | | gregy> | oh, well...at least they weren't blushing "bright red"..... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 599) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 7:02:30 pm | | Eric> | Most cats are smart enough to hide from an angry diving | bluejay...they are mean, tough birds. Cats like to be | the aggressor. They usually reconoiter at least if they | find themselves under attack. | | ============================================================================ | | 600) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 7:13:02 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, My guess is there was a lot of blushing bright red... | but....it was due to increase in blood pressure and not paint color. | hehehe | | ============================================================================ | | 601) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 7:29:05 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, I did see my cat beat the heck out of a dog that was | at least 2-3 time bigger than the cat. My cat would let the | dog sneak up until it was close enough and then swing around | and shred the dog's nose. It was a farmer's hunting dog and | the owner claimed it was a cat killer. The dog approached my | cat in the middle of a sandy country road where the cat had no | protection but he was doing a good job of defense. | | | ============================================================================ | | 602) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 7:35:43 pm | | gregy> | Eric...Re: dive-bombing birds....... | ... | 20 years ago, when my (now dead) Manx female was just a kitten, my | Thai Leopard male cat (her housebrother) was teaching her how to hunt | birds..... | .... | he he...I heard the racket in the backyard and went up the stairs to | investigate........ | There was Tammy (male) jumping and counterattacking two frantic and very | errate robin-parents....."WHY???" was my immediate response...because | Tam wasn't DOing anything, just leaping and swiping at them...why were | they dive-bombing him (and they weren't mussing ANY of HIS feathers.. | ...)..... | Then I noticed Sphinx (female Manx kitten) sort of incompetently doing | SOMEthing to something else on the ground back by the garage...I went | back there and....there was a young "fledgling-flyer" robin, who had | obviously gotten "un-airbourne" and couldn't seem to get himself | relaunched.......Sphinx was trying to figure out just WHAT to do | with him, and HOW to do it.... | ... | he he...baby cat, baby bird.....awwww shucks....I turned into a softy | and grabbed the fledgling and tossed him up in the air...... | ... | he he...he made the right moves and got going...but...BUT...he was | headed back toward the alley and was losing altitude somewhat, and was | gonna pass between the car and the garage at about 6ft height.... | ...FLASH!!!!!.....past me went Tammy, and I found out how the fledgeling | had become un-airbourne.....Tam caught up to him about the taillights | of the car, leapt 6ft into the air, and downed him, again... | ... | he he....this time I was sure he was a goner....but...when I grabbed him | from Tammy, he still had no damage (Tam wanted a more-or-less entact | teaching-toy for his sister) so I REALLY re-launched him, this time.. | ..waaayyyy up high....and he got a good jato-takeoff and flew over the | alley to a tree on the other side where his parents awaited him... | ... | ...he he | Point being....neither of those frantic parents counld even lay a beak | on Tam...he was too agressive and wiley for them.....and if I hadn't | come out...then THAT would have been the time when Tammy taught Sphinx | to catch/kill birds....instead of a week later.... | | | ============================================================================ | | 603) Wed, Sep 13, 2006 - 7:40:27 pm | | gregy> | he he...oh, yes.....self-defense.... | ... | That Manx, the bobcat, Sphinx....when she got full grown and mature... | at about 16lbs....she got very protective and territorial...and a | strange dog coming onto my lot/yard was due to have an eye plucked out | ...if they didn't flinch fast enough...... | ... | She put the run on many, many wandering canines..... | ... | Funny thing, though....she took my poor abused, abandoned coyote kit | under her "wing"....She and Smokey (another female) used to curl up on | top of Tippy (coyote) and really gave her a lot of love... | | | ============================================================================ | | 604) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 1:15:15 am | | Eric> | Gregy, The cats/dogs always seem to take care of there own. | My Irish Setter had her own cat and they used to play and raise | h*ll all the time but she,the Setter,also loved to chase other cats | just for the fun of the chase. She also teamed up with my parent's | cats(2-3 of them) to ravage the house on occasion. But the cats | would get up on a table and hang their paw over to give the | dog a love tap or two just for the fun of it. The cat that | was defending itself from the dog was probably the most | docile cat we ever had. My little brother used to use | him for a pillow. That cat even pinned a full size | Robin-red-breast on the ground with its front legs | and then called me to come get it. I never saw him | really try to hurt the robin. | My dad had a neighbor stop and tell him about | the cat down the street that would chase her dog | when she walked her dog past the cat's house. She | didn't know it was my dad's cat. hehehe And I | also found out that saving critters from my dad's | hunting cats (they were a pair or males) was damn | hard because they would do just what your cat did | with the baby robin...and...the cats were harder to | catch than whatever they were chasing. The cats also | didn't obey and they were serious hunters. They were | small cats as cats go but the buggers would catch | full grown rabbits. | | | ============================================================================ | | 605) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 1:35:54 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MikeSAdams/2006/09/13/the_university_of_n | http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=the_university_of_ne | | | ============================================================================ | | 606) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 1:41:02 am | URL | | gregy> | yeah...that Tammy was about a 12-14lb neutered male (all my cats are | fixed)...and he could take off from a standing start, leap straight over | a 3ft tall fence 10 feet away, land in the garden and in about two-three | leaps, nail a robin in flight, that had originally been about 60ft away | when his attack had started.... | ... | I used to know when he was about to "take off" because he would look at | his intended target and kind of "chatter" his teeth and mouth....then | BLAM!!!...off he'd go.....the only time I didn't see him succeed was | the first time he saw canadian honkers passing low over head.... | ..........he took a second look and turned away in disgust | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 607) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 5:22:46 am | | Eric> | I suddenly realized I thought I smelled something hot/electric hot. | I checked this old 486 and all the fans seemed to be working. | Then I checked my "newest" 233 MMX W98 and my power supply fan | had stopped. In the checking process when I pushed on my 486 overdrive | chip fan it caused this 486 to lockup for some reason and I had | to reboot/install Arachne. Then I had to take apart the hot power | supply and figure out how to oil the fan. Thank goodness the fan | still worked. It's always something...I'm sure glad my nose still | works. BTW, I found out that these super lube oil additives are | really good for such jobs. They seem to adhere more tenaciously | to the metal parts and really reduce the friction. | | | ============================================================================ | | 608) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 5:49:06 am | | Eric> | Gregy, Re: Fixed male cats.....My parents had managed to | acquire a brood of 4-5 male cats from a stray. These cats | were exceptionally nice cats. Well, my mother passed away | very suddenly and around the same time 1-2 cats disappeared. | My dad decided to get the two remaining cats neutered. Well, | my dad got the one cat ready to take to the vet. The other | cat seemed to sense what was happening and disappeared so | he didn't get fixed. Not long after that we found the unfixed | cat in the middle of the main road about a block from home. | It was after midnight and we were just returning from the | local restaurant. The lure of his girlfriend had been his | downfall. Damn cat was too smart for his own good. My poor | dad was really upset. | | ============================================================================ | | 609) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 6:07:45 am | | gregy> | yeah...I can understand. I have had only one reported (months after the | fact) to have been killed by a car, and one reported shot by a mean | little criminal kid (in the years since then he's gone to reform school | and then to prison)..... | And one disappeared about 6mo after I moved over here 3years ago...all | of these I never "discovered" myself, they just "went missing"... | ... | All the rest (about 10 over 27years) got sick and/or old or disappeared | or died.... | ... | But, they've all had a good life, of whatever duration.... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 610) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 6:09:43 am | | gregy> | The two I have now are 4-5 years old, males, and they're the last ones | I'll have. By the time they're old (about another 10 years) I'll be | dead or getting there (75) and I'm not going to leave some abandoned | pets.. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 611) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 7:24:10 am | | Eric> | My dad's last two cats, males that hunted together, both lived | to be around 20 years old. They were real buddies. They used | to even groom one another. The one got all beat up when he | was 4-5 years old. When I came back from my mother's funeral, | the cat came up to the car to greet me in the dark. He had been | AWOL for a couple of days. I picked him up with my one arm | and went into the house. When I turned on the light I couldn't | believe my eyes. The cat had half of its front teeth knocked | out and his head was all beat up with skin that had been peeled | back away from his jaw and at least one eye swollen up. I | decided he must have tangled with a car and then been recouperating | somewhere until he could get home. My dad & I gave him first aid | and the vet put him back together the next day. He was one tough | cat. | | ============================================================================ | | 612) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 8:05:53 am | | Eric> | Oh, I forgot...the one cat used to go into the bathroom and | use the toilet. He was self toilet trained. I'm not sure if | they both did, but the one did for sure. My dad heard the | water running in the bathroom one day and when he went to | check there the cat sat on the toilet seat whizzing into | the toilet. | | | ============================================================================ | | 613) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 8:58:37 am | | gregy> | he he....yeah...I love canines since from my childhood....but....but... | a REALLY smart dog has only, at most, about 1/3-1/2 the intelligence of | an average cat..... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 614) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 9:00:15 am | | gregy> | oh...and the beatup cat..???....was the weather a little chilly...??? | ... | Maybe the cat crawled up on an engine block, and didn't flee before the | engine was started, and had a runin with the fan and fanbelt...??? | | | ============================================================================ | | 615) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 9:31:26 am | | Eric> | I've seen where cats will get into engine compartments and | I've had cats get into my cars thru damaged trunk floors. | That could have happened but this was at the end of June | and these cats were really house cats. He would even | rattle the storm door when he wanted in. In fact, he | would even open the storm door and let himself in and | out. The darn cats would open the cupboard doors in | the kitchen so that the doors had to be tied shut to | keep them out. One time I heard a noise under the | dishwasher so I took off the bottom panel and a cat | walked out. Somehow he came up from the basement | ceiling thru the floor. | | | ============================================================================ | | 616) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 9:49:43 am | | gregy> | yeah...that old Tammy had ALL the cupboard doors, AND the refigerator | door, figured out....hadda put hook/eyes on all of them.... | ... | He died, at 16 1/2 years, 4 years ago....he didn't pass his door-opening | talents on to any of the newer cats.... | | | ============================================================================ | | 617) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 4:27:21 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, Maybe your cat and ours had a common gene or two. | Of all the cats that I've known, those were the only ones | that opened up everything. If you just pushed the big front | door closed and didn't engage the latch/bolt, those darn | cats, if they really wanted out, would manage to open the | big door and suddenly you would hear the stormdoor rattling | and by the time you could get to the door they would pop | loose the stormdoor latch so that maybe if you were fast | enough you could watch them running down the steps probably | after some chipmunk or rabbit or dog or trespassing cat. | I never noticed the icebox open but that closed by itself | so who knows. I did catch Mr. Roberts after he had opened | a new bag of dry catfood. He was sitting next to the | bag dipping his paw into the food and placing it into his | mouth. The dog would have just stuck her head in the bag, | but not Mr. Roberts, he was too "proper". | | ============================================================================ | | 618) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 5:39:11 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, How are your CD-RW drives working in DOS. I just | got one that I'd like to setup. Any words of wisdom are | welcome. Somewhere I've got glennmcc's package of stuff | but I haven't tried any setup yet. | | ============================================================================ | | 619) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 7:40:09 pm | | glennmcc> | Eric, | | Have a look at the posts on my message borad earier this month. | | I now have a completely automated system for creating a bootable CD | using 'pure DOS'... no wincrap... no linux.... just DOS | | | ============================================================================ | | 620) Thu, Sep 14, 2006 - 9:20:11 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, Thanks, I'll take a look. I don't know that | I need a bootable CD. I don't know if I can even boot | from a CD on that computer...I don't think so. | | ============================================================================ | | 621) Fri, Sep 15, 2006 - 8:25:23 pm | | gregy> | Eric...better go to Glenn for "words of wisdom"....I still haven't | gotten my CD-RWs to work for recording.... | .... | Glenn helped me, before, but we ran out of ideas. I since have done | some pondering/investigating...and I have some more ideas which I will | be checking out this fall/winter... | ... | Right now, I'm still "in the throes" with my home repairs/improvements | and finalizing them and buttoning up this trailer for the winter... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | Š 622) Fri, Sep 15, 2006 - 10:59:51 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, | Haven't you heard...we don't button up trailers | any more...we use zippers and velcro...and...occasionally, | in Red Green country, we use "duck" tape ! hehehe | As Levis found out, button flies are for the summer. | | | ============================================================================ | | 623) Fri, Sep 15, 2006 - 11:40:19 pm | | gregy> | Eric....errrmmmm....hmmmmm....well, I must confess...plenty of duct tape | around here, too...... | | | ============================================================================ | | 624) Sat, Sep 16, 2006 - 12:22:14 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2006/s2700.htm | | | ============================================================================ | | 625) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 3:24:36 am | | gregy> | ummm...Glenn.....I noticed on the freelist that you were looking for | someplace with a high bandwidth for multi-download capacity...?? | ... | Remember, you "have the keys" for the OtherPlace.... | ... | And, I think, we have 1000Gbyte monthly bandwidth over there....seems | like....but, with the "keys" you can login and check it on the VA | main page.. | ... | If you decide to use it....just make a personal directory (say, glennmcc | or such) on the root directory, and branch directories under your | personal directory...and stash your downloads in there.. | ... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 626) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 5:53:27 am | | glennmcc> | Thank you, thank you. | | I'll keep it in mind. | | ============================================================================ | | 627) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 6:59:43 am | | gregy> | yw....you, Jake, and me have the keys....I don't see any reason why any | of us shouldn't make moderate ...use of the 1Gbyte storage with | 1000Gbyte traffic allowances.... | ... | I mean...."moderate" in that environment allows for quite a bit of | leeway..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 628) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 8:44:03 am | | ray> | I keep dreamin' of the AVA of my dreams ... hmmm that's a bit | redundant ;-) Upload site, download site, as nicely organized | as the Yahoo site but without the BS, links to *everything* -- | all the boards, Glenn's site, MP's site, the lists, everthing. | One stop shopping for all my Arachne needs. No blasted passwords | to get in, just to upload anything. | | | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 629) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 8:50:31 am | | gregy> | hmmmm....sounds interesting.........however (but)..and.. | youknewthiswascomingdidn'tyou???......however....at this moment...the | directorystructure is confused/messy, and the files are also...I need | to clean it up, and organize it a bit.... | ...and... | ..right now I'm too busy/lazy....so it will get done "as able"... | ... | However ('nuther "but")....you might put your thoughts/designs/desires | out on paper/textfile....and we could discuss them....and see what | "shakes out"..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 630) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 11:31:11 am | | ray> | Mornin' Gregy, | | Most of what I could say I just said, and since I don't know HTML, | all I can do is critique what you come up with, but bear in mind that | IMHO AVA should be *the* portal to *everything* else. Oh, forgot to | mention the contacts section, where there are links to the email | of the whole Arachne universe. | | BTW (a bit of baiting here ...) are the W.H.O. a bunch of | evil, lying proggies or should I take what they say seriously?? | | | | ============================================================================ | | 631) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 11:49:09 am | | gregy> | evil, lying proggy-libs....don't forget that last bit.... | .... | ...however, you take what they say based upon other evidence.... | ... | e.g. they've just approved/recommended worldwide DDT use, again... | ...well...they've gotten something right, for a change.... | ...my question is, "What took them so long?"..... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 632) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 11:57:10 am | URL | | gregy> | As if we ain't got enough addictions around already...now we've got | this one...:(((()))))?????? | | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/17/nbotox17.xml | | | | ============================================================================ | | 633) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 11:57:52 am | | gregy> | errrmmm....couldn't decide whether to laugh or cry, on that last link. | .... | | | ============================================================================ | | 634) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 1:18:50 pm | | ray> | Wiley old fart! you saw me comming, I was just going to point that | headline out, but first, get you to say that they are evil, lying | proggy-libs, and then ask you why on earth I should belive anything | that is said by evil, lying proggy-libs? A fool might occasionaly | say something right or good, but evil people never do. So, if the | increased use of DDT is good, and it's recomened by the WHO, then | if follows logicaly that the WHO is not evil, otherwise why would they | encourage a good thing? | | Ergo: | | The WHO may be/have been mistaken, they may be occasionaly | beureaucratic, self-interested, dumb, wrong, and a host of other | depressing things, but they can't be evil because evil never | seeks to do good. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 635) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 1:29:30 pm | | glennmcc> | "More than half of regular Botox users said they felt a lack of control over | natural ageing process without the jab, with a similar number admitting that | made them "feel" younger too." | | "errrmmm....couldn't decide whether to laugh or cry, on that last link." | | I _can_ decide................. | | Hahahahahahahahahaha !!!!! | | ============================================================================ | | 636) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 7:28:18 pm | | Eric> | "More than half of regular Botox users said they felt | a lack of control over the...." I thought they were going | to say "bodily functions" since Botox is simply a nerve | poison that makes the muscles relax/stop working. What | the hell does shooting your self up with neurotoxin | have to do with "control over natural ageing". Boy | are they disillusioned. | | ============================================================================ | | 637) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 7:34:24 pm | | Eric> | I wonder what kind of changes would occur if one gave | several strategic Botox injections to one of those | Shar-pay dogs. hehehe Would it turn into a blob? hehehe | | | ============================================================================ | | 638) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 9:56:18 pm | | gregy> | okay...Glenn...I'll concur..... | ... | Eric...he he...this all reminds me of that old mantra, "Live longer" | .....he he.....it always immediately brought up the question, "Than | what...???".... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 639) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 10:03:18 pm | | gregy> | Ray....hmmmm....well, I/you hafta remember that there ARE no "evil | people"....there are only "evil doers (i.e. people who do evil)"...that | is NOT the same..... | ... | Remember, Jesus told the thief on the cross that he would dine with | Jesus in paradise. Therefore, Christian doctrine allows "saving grace" | to ALL mankind, right up to the moment of their death. | ... | But...organizations, now....they can be EVIL...because they follow the | agenda/worldview/deeds of satan....and the people in those organizations | can be evil-doers....so....I stand corrected... | ... | The WHO is an organization infected with evil-doing, proggy-libs that | is usually on the wrong side of all issues (and of history)..... | ... | That they "got" something right is not surprising....I mean...the shear | probabilities would dictate that they WOULD, sooner-or-later... | ...at least one thing right..... | ... | So, they've got one thing right....now they can go back to their | standard "evil-doing"....... | | | ============================================================================ | | 640) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 10:04:06 pm | | gregy> | Eric...."turn into a blob".....ermmm, no...at least NOT if you froze it | first..... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 641) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 11:30:51 pm | URL | | gregy> | Jake...et al...you were "wonderingly amazed" that "Norwegian v. Swede" | jokes might be a part of American humour...??? | ... | ......catch this....... | | http://powerlineblog.com/ | | | | ============================================================================ | | 642) Sun, Sep 17, 2006 - 11:53:07 pm | URL | | gregy> | ..our Sunday Steyn.... | | http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn17.html | | | | ============================================================================ | | 643) Mon, Sep 18, 2006 - 12:21:16 am | URL | | gregy> | This one is STILL....waaaayyyyy toooooooo muuuucccchhhh....!!!! | | http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/ap/0906/1503_guilty_fake_penis_case.html | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 644) Mon, Sep 18, 2006 - 2:04:02 am | | Eric> | Gregy, Why would you want to freeze a poor dog? | Just because it has too much skin ? | | ============================================================================ | | 645) Mon, Sep 18, 2006 - 10:08:54 am | | gregy> | Eric...just to answer your question.......to keep it from | melting into a blob from the botox application..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 646) Mon, Sep 18, 2006 - 11:09:32 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.aim.org/guest_column/4875_0_6_0_C/ | | | | ============================================================================ | | 647) Mon, Sep 18, 2006 - 12:13:12 pm | | ray> | Gregy, | | I'd say you have it exactly backwards from a Christian perspective. | An organization can't be evil because it has no heart. It can | suffer from many bad things but it has no soul so it can't | be evil, though it can be an evil-doer for sure! It's the same | with any tool, a gun can be used to do evil, but it itself can never | *be* evil. | | A human can be | evil because a human can choose to be evil, and many do just that. | A human can also be an evil-doer but still do so out of some | ignorance or error, thus Grace. Just the same, if the people controling | an organization choose to use that organization (like the gun above) | to do evil then we might as well say the organization *is* evil | for practical purposes. | | But evil never intends good, is that not so? Thus if WHO | (really the people who run WHO) supports the use of DDT, | and the use of DDT is good then we have | only two options: | | 1) to realize that WHO is not evil (because it does not *intend* | evil as witnessed by the fact that it is trying to do a good thing | (though it may indeed have been guilty of many mistakes of | various sorts) | | 2) WHO is evil and believes that the use of DDT would be a very | bad thing and, as an evil entity, wants that bad thing to happen. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 648) Mon, Sep 18, 2006 - 9:44:56 pm | | gregy> | Ray....no...go back to the Thief on the Cross....NO human is evil... | ..period..flat..final....but...any human IS capable of chasing after | gross unrighteousness and of doing GREAT evil... | ... | The only evil creature(s) is satan....(and his fallen angel followers) | .... | ANY creature able to be "saved" is not/cannot be "evil".... | ... | As for organizations being not evil, because they have no "souls".. | ...heh heh....remember "for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, | but against principalities and powers, etc"..... | ...that's aka "organizations"... | ... | Great evil is often done from mixed/good motives...which is why "the | ends justify the means" is ALWAYS an evil attitude......except in ONE | instance.....GOD.... | ... | Remember...ALL effective lies are wrapped around, at least, a shred of | truth....e.g. "You shall not SUREly die....you shall be as GOD." | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 649) Mon, Sep 18, 2006 - 9:51:07 pm | | gregy> | now...WHO is evil because for 30 years they have gone along with the | environbationist lie of "DDT is poison"....the people within WHO over | those years are NOT evil...but they did GREAT evil by believing and | promoting (or just allowing it to go unrefuted) that lie....therefore, | WHO is evil....and the people have done evil....to whit: They have | the blood of, at least, 30 million people they have murdered by their | deliberate denial of DDT to protect them from malaria.... | ...and...and...NOTE, NOTE.....this is (don't argue, or I'll cream you) | due to racist attitudes and inclinations.... | ...in other words...they promoted this, and carried it out, because | "those" were NOT members of the "white race"...(I put quotes around | that, because IT is a LIE....there are NO "races" except the human | race).... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 650) Mon, Sep 18, 2006 - 11:44:52 pm | | Eric> | Boy, if ever I were in the woods pursued by a bear I | would want to have Gregy as a companion and I would tell | him that the bear was a member of WHO. The only problem | is I would be faced with an ambiguous situation..... | whether I was running from Gregy or the bear. | Of course, if the bear had malaria, Gregy would probably | have a treat in his pocket laced with DDT and Quinine. | | ============================================================================ | | 651) Mon, Sep 18, 2006 - 11:51:13 pm | | gregy> | now, now...Eric....why would I do THAT...???? | ... | ...rather than just borrow Glenn's 06 and blow the bear down...???? | ... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 652) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 2:27:19 am | | Eric> | Gregy, The DDT and Quinine is to cure the bear's Malaria | not to kill it. You surely don't consider bear to be | vermin ? They probably eat a "vermin" or two. I know | a large part of a bear's diet is vegitarian but they | also love fish and horse meat. I figured with your | ferociousness the bear would take one look and end its | pursuit. After all I figure I can outrun you so it | would be between you and the bear. He might even | decide you didn't look very tasty anyway. hehehe | | | ============================================================================ | | 653) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 7:16:51 am | | gregy> | ..."not very tasty anyway."....that's about right....... | ..."ferociousness"....hey...!!!....I'm just a pussy cat..... | ... | bears..??? vermin...??? well...hmmmm....as long as they are "gunshy" | and stay away from humans and human-habitation.....then my motto is | "Live and let live."......otherwise............ | ... | As for kill their malaria....I think it's never even been suggested | that they get malaria..... | ... | ...outrun me...??? You've gotta remember that up until 6 years ago, | I was required to run timed-2-miles twice a year....and I never flunked | .... | ... | And....I'm an old combat veteran....I NEVER fight the rise of pure | terror....I hop on it, and pump it up....and....I can move awwwfffulllyy | quick when I'm riding an adrenalin spike..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 654) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 8:07:01 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52031 | | | ============================================================================ | | 655) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 8:12:44 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52041 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 656) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 8:22:18 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52038 | | | ============================================================================ | | 657) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 8:28:21 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52034 | | | ============================================================================ | | 658) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 8:30:46 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008958 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 659) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 8:34:41 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17111 | | | ============================================================================ | | 660) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 8:39:51 am | URL | | gregy> | I don't care what the Pope said/says....he could have said ANYTHING... | ...the reaction/response gives the perfect lie to "The religion of | peace".... | | http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17116 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 661) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 8:43:14 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17113 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 662) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 8:46:35 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,437684,00.html | | | ============================================================================ | | 663) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 8:55:43 am | URL | | gregy> | he he...check out the last three paragraphs for prime example of | tinfoil-hat conspiracy-ists..... | | http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/money/20060919/1b_gasprices19.art.htm | | | ============================================================================ | | 664) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 9:01:55 am | URL | | gregy> | Well...I suppose we'll hafta start telling jokes about the "1-speed | forward, 12-speeds in reverse" of the "cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys" | ... | http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article1619246.ece | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 665) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 9:19:55 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.easybourse.com/Website/dynamic/News.php?NewsID=58170&lang=fra&New | | Just in case the link is broke: | | US Treasury Sets New 1-Day Tax Rece | $85.8 Billion | Tuesday September 19th, 2006 / 0h04 | | WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- The U.S. | recorded record-high overall and | receipts on Sept. 15, which was a | deadline for tax payments, the Tr | Monday. | Total tax receipts were $85.8 bil | compared with the previous one-da | billion on Sept. 15 of last year, | said. | Within the overall figure, corpor | Friday were $71.8 billion, up fro | September of last year. | Treasury Undersecretary for Domes | Randal Quarles said Friday's numb | "continuing demonstration of the | U.S. economy." | "In fact, Friday's gross receipts | largest in a single day in the na | 20% higher than receipts on the s | tax payment date last year," Quar | statement. | -By Benton Ives-Halperin, Dow Jon | 202-862-9255; Benton.Ives-Halperi | | | ============================================================================ | | 666) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 9:25:31 am | URL | | gregy> | sounds sorta like Slick Willie's wimpy whine,"If only there'da been a | war, I would'da been a great president, too." | | http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-0 | | | ============================================================================ | | 667) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 9:29:02 am | URL | | gregy> | That's IT..!!!...let's all the Christians turn out and rape, riot, burn | and murder.....we've had enOUGH..!!!! | | http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm | | | | ============================================================================ | | 668) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 9:33:57 am | URL | | gregy> | Amen..!!! | | http://www.youcantbeatawoman.com/ | | | | ============================================================================ | | 669) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 9:36:33 am | URL | | gregy> | More "religion of peace" | | http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/009049.php | | | | ============================================================================ | | 670) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 9:44:46 am | | gregy> | WEEEoooo...WEEEEooooo...WEEEooo.....calling Jake,...calling Jake...!!! | (StarTrek...KlingonAssaultAlarm....or sumpin).... | | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5346930.stm | | The cure for this is, of course..... | ... | ... | ... | ....Tinfoil Hats...... | ... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 671) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 9:54:13 am | URL | | gregy> | An article so excellent that I'm finding it hard to believe it was | even printed in the Globe and Mail... | | http://www.theglobeandmail.com//servlet/story/LAC.20060919.AFGHANBLATCH19/TP | | | ============================================================================ | | 672) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 10:04:50 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10371 | | | ============================================================================ | | 673) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 10:07:29 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/muslim-animosity-strange-howard/2006/09/19/ | | | | ============================================================================ | | 674) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 10:11:04 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20442116-32522,00.html | | | ============================================================================ | | 675) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 10:16:21 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=091906A | | | ============================================================================ | | 676) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 10:20:09 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=YjRiNGIzYjE3ZjcxNzJiMGMyNTVhMGJhY | | | | ============================================================================ | | Š 677) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 1:34:13 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, | | You wrote: | >...outrun me...??? You've gotta remember that up until 6 years ago, | >I was required to run timed-2-miles twice a year....and I never flunked | | Gregy, 6 yrs. is a long time....besides...I keep my Hoverround | battery charged up. | | What prompted this sudden reading/posting binge ? Did you | drink to much coffee this morning ? ...or... Did the smoke | from one of those forest fires, burning in someone's hidden | hemp patch, drift over your place ? ...or... Can you hear | the hooves of Ray's rampaging meese herd getting close and | your posting as much as possible before their arrival ? | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 678) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 6:28:14 pm | | ray> | How did that go? 'self-restraint, trust, cooperation ...' | rotten socialists and their rotten values. | | | ============================================================================ | | 679) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 7:57:39 pm | | Eric> | Re: post #668....it says: | | Women who arm themselves pose a direct threat | to those who select women as an easy target for crime, | | I agree ... but... They also pose a threat to themselves and | others who may accidently say the wrong thing or who's | intentions are misinterpreted. Anyone ever heard of PMS ? | Actually, anyone who shoots poses a threat...male or female. | Woman are not harmless. Most, it seems, think it's OK to slap/hit | a man if they don't like something he does or says. Give that | woman a gun and look out. | | "Note: we recommend that you wash your YCB shirt inside out in warm/cold | water. Tumble dry medium. Your mileage may vary... " | | | Concerning washing directions, I say apply them to your woman, | as required... | | Note: I recommend that you wash your woman outside in warm/cold | water. Tumble dry medium. Your mileage may vary... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 680) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 9:20:43 pm | | gregy> | Ray....contrary to the "devout practices" of proggy-libs...I | deliberatly choose to remember the former things of old....i.e. the | words/deeds the proggy-libs said/did yesterday........and...I | believe the THEY should be forced to accept the blame/responsibility/ | consequences for their prior words/deeds...... | ... | All I ever hear from them is, "I don't wanna hear/talk about that. | Let's MoveOn.org.".... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 681) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 9:24:01 pm | | gregy> | Eric....must be the defective models you run around with....... | ... | ...maybe if you tried a "shooting model" you'd find they're slightly | different type of personality... | ... | FWIW....I know a LOT of "shooter-model-women" (majority of them, out | here....but...even my Thai wife was a "shooter-model")...and NONE of | them are hitters/slappers/(even)squakers/screamers..... | ...so... | ..Maybe you've never experienced "life in the shooters' lane".... | .... | | | ============================================================================ | | 682) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 9:26:15 pm | | gregy> | Re:..."how come posting...??"....hmmmm...well..we've been having our | usual fall equinox storm (rain/sleet/snow) and outside work has been | on hold for a few days.....just getting cleared up this week...so...it | will be "back at 'em"...tomorrow.... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 683) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 10:00:07 pm | | ray> | Gregy, | | I'm with you there. IMHO you tend to see the left as all bad and the | right as all good, me, I'm stricktly neutral and the fact is that | I have as many issues with the left as the right, seems to me they | can both get a bit soft in the head and 'liberal' with the truth. | But at the end of the day I've gotta be a proggy because although | moving forward is always dangerous the alternative is not moving, | or going backwards, and if society as a whole thought that way | we'd still be feeding Christians to the lions. Nope, mistakes and | all, I'll keep moving forward. So if you take the opposite view, | just how far back would you like to move society? 50's? niggers to | the back of the bus days? slave days? Salem witch trials? | Dog eat dog dark ages? I find it most amusing that guys like | you don't think highly of folks like the Taliban, even though you | both think the same way -- back to the dark ages! | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 684) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 10:17:19 pm | | gregy> | Ray...perhaps you mistake me for an "evolutionist-progressivist" type, | who even believes in the concept of "human progress".....??? | ... | I assure you that this is not true.... | ... | As far as I can read/see....there has been no real "progress" in human | history since, "In the beginning....GOD!" | ... | That being so....of course,...all of your above illustrations are no | more than "strawmen" illusions....I promote/ascribe to none of them. | ...to take just one..."niggers" | ... | There are NO "races".....flat, final, period.....that is a falacious | construct/concept perpetrated by the secular-minded evil-lutionists of | the so-called "enlightenment"....prior to that...the idea wasn't in | the human library.... | .... | | | ============================================================================ | | 685) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 11:01:03 pm | URL | | gregy> | More tinfoil-hat productions: | | http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17092 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 686) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 11:09:34 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, There is a race...the human race. There are | races....each member of the human race is running his | own race. However, not every human seems to realize | it. Everyone's race starts when we are born, or really | at conception but I haven't figured out exactly where | the finish line is. I'm not even sure there is a finish | line. It may just be a relay race passing the torch from | generation to generation and there is no finish line. | And when to pass the torch seems to be a variable | entity. The goal seems more that you do your best rather | than to reach any particular destination....and to help | your fellow participants to do their best too. The problems | seem to arise when some participants get a "vision" and | mistake it for a goal and get fixated on that goal so | much that they ignore and trample over other participants | trying to reach a rainbow which is an allusion that | the other participants don't even acknowledge. | | ============================================================================ | | 687) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 11:15:51 pm | URL | | gregy> | However...in spite of what this guy says....the ACTUAL temperature | readings haven't gone up since 1997.... | ..but... | | http://www.reporterherald.com/Top-Story.asp?ID=6894 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 688) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 11:20:07 pm | | gregy> | Eric....he he...I agree wholeheartedly with almost all of what you say | there..... | ... | I reserve ONLY the "vision" of GOD (if God does, indeed, exist)..and | that vision does NOT allow me to violate the "imagio dei" in another | human... | ... | ...as for "passing the torch"...hey..!!!....I think that's an ungoing | process.....I mean, I've "passed the torch" to so many others, at so | many different times/stages in my life...that I could write a whole | book just listing the torch-passing moments..... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 689) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 11:21:36 pm | | gregy> | ...and...I've got a sneaking suspicion that my torch-passing moments | are not done.........(yet..........) | | | ============================================================================ | | 690) Tue, Sep 19, 2006 - 11:27:59 pm | URL | | gregy> | he he he....ha ha ha....ho ho ho.....this is intended as sort of a | parody of a "Monty-Python-Moment"....right..???...right..!!!??? | ...RRIIIGGGHHHTTTTT...!!!!!!?????????????? | | http://upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060919-072707-7105r | | | | ============================================================================ | | 691) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 3:03:56 am | | Eric> | Gregy, Well, it is after all just acting....a lot of people | seem to forget that...and...strange as it seems, a "genius" | at acting does not a genius as a physicist make, necessarily. | And vice versa. And should SP pull it off then one would have | to admit at least he can act....but...ya, he's really sticking | his neck out. | | | ============================================================================ | | 692) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 3:11:01 am | | Eric> | Gregy, re: #688 ... that "vision" is not necessarily a god, | tho it may be for some, and is essentially treat as if it | were a god by most even if it isn't. | | ============================================================================ | | 693) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 5:09:18 am | | gregy> | Eric....I apologize for not clearly defining "god".....a god is any | thing that a person "trusts in, adheres to, relies upon, clings to, | cleaves to.".... | ... | e.e.g.g.....bank account, nice house, food, clothes, good name, health | insurance, etc, etc, etc. | ... | ah...you may think I'm wrong, but I deny that there even CAN be any | "vision" without an underlying "god" (whether acknowledged or not). | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 694) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 5:10:27 am | | gregy> | Eric....Sean P**** cannot even row a boat, let alone act (reference | New Orleans Katrina aftermath)... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 695) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 5:12:46 am | URL | | gregy> | Here's the ONE I've been trying to find for a year or so....(prolly | Glenn has it stashed on his server........)... | | http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches/speeches_quote04.html | | This is the ROTFLALALALALALuntildead speech putting the kebosh on | "anthropogenic glob-waaming"..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 696) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 5:15:49 am | URL | | gregy> | Also, Ray....it's, at least, several nails in the coffin of (what I | seem to understand as your vision of "progress") the "march of man - | onward and upward".... | | | ============================================================================ | | 697) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 6:07:41 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches/speeches_quote05.html | | | | ============================================================================ | | 698) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 6:46:29 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches/speeches_quote09.html | | | ============================================================================ | | 699) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 6:53:35 am | | gregy> | oh, and BTW...I'm not "beatin' up on you"...nor anyone around here, in | particular....I'm trashing phoney ideas and false "facts" which are | (or seem to be) in epidemic proportions within the realm of "human | knowledge".... | .... | And, it is good to get these things out and discuss them... | ... | So, quit cringing....you're not the target.... | | | ============================================================================ | | 700) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 6:58:52 am | URL | | gregy> | I'm sure this happens all the time, all around the world...I wonder | why we don't hear about it more often...???? | | http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060920/D8K8II2G3.html | | | | ============================================================================ | | 701) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 7:04:33 am | URL | | gregy> | Those doggone plastic garbage bags just aren't biodegradeable enough, | yet..... | | http://news.yahoo.com/s/wkmg/20060920/lo_wkmg/9889485 | http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060920/capt.cf9736cbbc35489d807d33e56e3 | | | ============================================================================ | | 702) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 7:47:24 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/burtis092006.htm | | | ============================================================================ | | 703) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 11:29:42 am | | Eric> | Gregy, I didn't know boat rowing was a prerequisite | for acting. But, I'm not familiar with Sean's rowing ability | or the reference you stated. | | | ============================================================================ | | 704) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 11:58:46 am | | Eric> | Gregy, Re: Panda ... He's lucky that pandas are vegitarians. | Did you see the picture on that link of the little girl | sleeping next to the panda? | | ============================================================================ | | 705) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 12:23:19 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, I wonder what happens if you run into a plastic | garbage bag at 25000 mph ? | | ============================================================================ | | 706) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 6:32:14 pm | | glennmcc> | 'the left' is bad ... 'the right' is bad ... 'tye middle' is bad. | | Only those whom reject the blatherings-on of 'left' , 'right' and 'middle' | but rather choose to make-up-their-own-damn-minds ... are good. | | | ============================================================================ | | 707) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 6:40:15 pm | | glennmcc> | "I bit the fellow in the back," Zhang was quoted as saying | | I find it a little hard to believe that a man named Zhang would use | the term 'fellow' when referring to the panda he had bitten. | | Therfore, I do not believe that is a 'quote' as the article claims it to be. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 708) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 7:48:44 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, He was a Chinese migrant worker so someone | had to translate his actual quote made in his own | language. It's my guess that a more accuate translation | was deemed unprintable. It was probably more accurately: | | "The f**k'r bit my leg and wouldn't let go so I bit | the SOB back." | | On TV they showed a woman who got to close to a fence | in a zoo surrounding a bear. She was taking pictures | when the bear reached thru the fence and bit her thigh | and held on, trying to pull her thru the fence. People | were beating the bear on the head and face and it still | held on for a long time. Somehow they got the bear off | her and she survived but she was severly injured. | I watched people feed wild bear in Yellowstone Park | and one guy was even wrestling with a bear in the | middle of the road. People do stupid things. The | bear took a swipe at the wrestler guy, with its | front paw, as he got back into his car but he didn't | seem to be seriously hurt. We didn't stick around | 'cause another bear was stalking my dad who was taking | pictures. As soon as the bear let my dad get into our car, | we took off. The bear stuck his nose into my partially | open window and hooked its claws over the edge of the window. | As we took off the bear ran along side the car at about | 30 mph for a short distance. My recommendation, stay | away from bears. Give them wide berth. | back into the car | | ============================================================================ | | 709) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 7:59:02 pm | | Eric> | Re: last line above, "back into the car"...... Darn hidden | lines in these text windows. | | | ============================================================================ | | 710) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 8:21:00 pm | | ray> | Gregy, | | You are the first person I've ever met who will openly say that | he doesn't believe in progress and if that's the case I just | don't know what to say. | | ============================================================================ | | 711) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 8:24:16 pm | | ray> | McC, re: 706, I'm with you there. Damn all ideological bather, | wake up and smell the coffee. | | | ============================================================================ | | 712) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 10:16:48 pm | | gregy> | Ray...I "believe" in progress, just like I "believe" in the Tooth Fairy | ... | ...what I mean is....I do NOT consider technological advance(s) as | necessarily "progress"....nor do I necessarily consider any political | or social so-called "advances" as progress..... | ... | These "things" are too dicey to place my trust/worship in....I've seen | too many "things" come and go.....many of them with horrifying results | and consequences... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 713) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 10:20:13 pm | | gregy> | Glenn...I'm sorta in agreement with you there....but....there is no such | thing as a "value-free" "non-ideological" life/phylosophy possible... | ...everyone (and anyone) must have certain core beliefs and be acting | on them, and building his/her life around them... | ...oh, and...said "core" beliefs must mesh with and fit in with the core | beliefs of the surrounding society or that person will be an "outlaw" | .... | | ============================================================================ | | 714) Wed, Sep 20, 2006 - 11:36:56 pm | | Eric> | The problem with progress/advances is that in general | humans don't know how to deal with it responsibly. | So, we write more laws to deal with the new advances. | And humans still can't deal with the new laws or the | advances responsibly...AND...the humans start going | bonkers and start taking pills to make them think | they're OK ...AND... they make new advances and they | take more newer pills...etc....etc....etc....and | they start to forget THE TEN most important laws | and how to apply them. | | ============================================================================ | | 715) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 12:01:25 am | | gregy> | yes..Eric....but I think humans beGIN by trying to forget those old, | fuddy-duddy TEN.....then delve into pills/drugs/etc to try to keep from | thinking about the consequences...... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 716) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 11:57:05 am | | ray> | Hmmm, well I can almost swallow that, it's true that not everything | called 'progress' really is progress, we make mistakes, sometimes | huge mistakes, but does that mean we stop trying? Heck there was | a day before DDT, then we invented it, wasn't that progress? | Then we stopped using it, but now we're back to it. | One step forward, 1/2 back, one forward, this time with better | data. | | Oh and I don't have core beliefs I have rcore beliefs | | | ============================================================================ | | 717) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 4:37:59 pm | | glennmcc> | I think what Gregy is trying to say is that there is big difference | between 'technological progress' and the actual 'progress of humanity'. | | And that in-fact humanity itself has not progressed much beyond where it | started with the creation of Adam. | | Sure... we have many more 'things' than did Adam. We have many more | 'things to do' than did Adam. | | However, | 'WE' are much the same creatures as was Adam. | | When it comes right down to defining what 'WE' are...... | | 'WE' are still infants in the 'grand scheme of things'. | | ============================================================================ | | 718) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 7:16:53 pm | | glennmcc> | Eric, | | Got envelope from you in today's mail .............. | | THANK YOU !!!! | | Just let me know if you need any more 'stuff'... got lots of it around here. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 719) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 8:13:39 pm | | ray> | Oh yeah, most of our progress is technological, man himself has | changed little, but even there some progress has been made in social | norms, as I said, we no longer make niggers sit at the back of the | bus, and surely to God that's a good thing; I call it progress. | | | ============================================================================ | | 720) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 8:15:26 pm | | ray> | Oh, incase it isn't obvious I'm mocking the people who | really use such terms when I use the 'N' word, there. | | | ============================================================================ | | 721) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 8:16:07 pm | | ray> | testing | | | ============================================================================ | | 722) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 8:16:48 pm | | ray> | Hmmm, the board was not going to full width there. | Another transient anomaly, is this some bug of mine? | | | ============================================================================ | | 723) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 8:22:35 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, You're welcome and thank you....busy right now,,, | I'll not be around for a while. | | ============================================================================ | | 724) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 8:43:12 pm | | glennmcc> | Ray, | | While test rcore.exe ... I too noticed some strange behavior visa vi | table rendering. Too wide some times... not wide enough at other times. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 725) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 8:44:11 pm | | glennmcc> | Eric, | | CU when you get back... don't stay away too long. | | ============================================================================ | | 726) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 10:09:57 pm | | gregy> | Glenn, Ray.....yes...hmmmm....but, Ray....point I made (I apologize for | not being able to always clearly state things)...was that the problem | with "nigger, et other denigrations" was the reSULT of the so-called | "enlightenment".....the whole idea of "races" never occurred to someone | from the Roman Empire (or before) or the so-called "dark ages" or, even, | the Middle Ages.....you won't find the viewpoint/concept there... | ... | It wasn't until around the middle/late 1700s that "intellectuals" (lots | of frogs, here) began to consider "others" as "less advanced" and then | as "less evolved" (when that evil got well propogandized)...and that | gave rein to all the human madness of the middle/late 1800s and the | whole 1900s murderous-mess.... | ... | Fact....there ARE differences (average statistics) between the different | people-groupings, mostly because of population bottlenecks they have | gone thru, but ALL people groups contain individuals who test at BOTH | the lowest AND THE HIGHEST levels of IQ (and other tests)...meaning | there is nothing intrinsicly "lower" about any people group and | therefore, there are no exhibited "racial" differences. | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 727) Thu, Sep 21, 2006 - 10:14:26 pm | | gregy> | And...given that I'm a Christian...I have NO basis for thinking ANY | human is "less than" I am, since we all descended from a single original | human male/female pair....... | ....and....while we HAVE "devolved" (i.e. degenerated thru gene mutation | and genetic bottleneck inbreeding) we can STILL all interbreed, thus | there has been NO significant devolution that would delineate us into | separate "races"... | ... | Furthermore....as a Christian...my valuation of other humans does NOT | depend upon how "smart/sharp/worthy" they are....it boils down to the | "image of god" in mankind...and THAT settles all arguments about how | much other humans are worth... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 728) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 7:51:32 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,215084,00.html | | | ============================================================================ | | 729) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 8:00:29 am | URL | | gregy> | Let's hear it for the Brits....they're STILL superb fightin' men..!!!! | .... | | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/22/nbattle22.xm | | | | ============================================================================ | | 730) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 8:06:58 am | | gregy> | And it sounds as if ALL the various groups of fighters, especially the | Afghans deserve kudos..... | ... | Good on 'em...!!!!!!!!!!! | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 731) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 8:40:02 am | URL | | gregy> | Another...Good on 'em...!!!! | | http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/print?id=1322866 | http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/ap_Khalid_S_Mohammed_051118_t.jpg | | | | ============================================================================ | | Š 732) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 8:59:10 am | | ray> | RE: 724, yeah, this could be some bug of mine but it's so | transient, it happens maybe one time in 100 and always seems to | disapear if I reload anyway. I dunno, some buffer overrun? | | | ============================================================================ | | 733) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 9:05:18 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52099 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 734) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 9:07:13 am | | gregy> | Ray...them'ones is the hardest to find, aren't they...???... | ... | It'd be nice if every bug jumped right up and clearly announced its | presence and location..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 735) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 9:09:37 am | | ray> | Gregy, | | Hmmm, I'm very impressed with your knowledge of the history of the | concept of race. Quite right, the ancients didn't even have the | notion at all -- nationalism, tribalism, religionism, sure, but | not racism per se. I suppose its true that the Enlightnment | advanced the idea of race as a concept but these dudes also | were four square against slavery and for decocracy and the | advancement of all (proggy-libs!) | | I'm with you tho as far as the fact that we are all one family and | every person must be legaly and moraly viewed as fully human. | Tho it's a fact that the different races are statisticaly different, | I agree that this is a transient thing, not built in. Given 300 | years of brutal selection for strength and stupidity, whitey | might not be very smart either -- honkeys to the back of the bus! ;-) | | | ============================================================================ | | 736) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 9:23:33 am | | gregy> | ..and...Ray....consider...."Othello" has NEVER been (and was never) | considered to be any kind of statement on "race".....so...what changed | from 1600 to 1800......???? | ... | Ask youself THAT question....??? | ...(along with a host of others) | | | | ============================================================================ | | 737) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 9:29:28 am | | gregy> | hmmmm....post disappeared.... | ... | Try again.... | .. | Ray...I'm not trying to "beat up on you"...but...you've gotta go back | and read them....I mean, look at Jean Jaques Rouseau's "nobel savage" | nonsense....and he's only one of the less sickening... | ... | ..couple that with the propagandizing for evolootianism during the 1700s | and 1800s, and throw in eugenics (implicit in evilootia, and promoted | by darwin's cousin galton)....and you have a clearer picture of where | this pernicious ideological poison entered in to the human philisophy. | ... | Sure those guys were all for "liberty, fraternity, egality"....yeah... | sure....for WHITE folks..... | .... | NOTE - read this post before #736 | | | ============================================================================ | | 738) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 9:39:25 am | | gregy> | oh, missed reposting about: | | I don't know about the "bred for 300 years for stupid and strong"..I | do not believe that really changed things much (if at all)....but you | are exhibiting a misuse (common in this area) of statistics.... | ... | I mean, no matter WHAT the "statistical averages" may | show....individuals...INDIVIDUALS..!!!! in ANY of the people groups can | (and do) exhibit both the HIGHEST and the lowest measurements shown | by any of the other people groups.... | ... | Again, to whit:.....a person in Group A can, and will, test as high as | the highest person tests in Group B - Z......meaning that statistical | averages do NOT show a true picture of the "inherent" capabilities for | any human being....said capabilities being just the same for any | individual in any of the people groups.... | ... | What I'm trying to get at..(and I fear I'm failing to) is that "race" | has nothing whatever to do with intelligence....and even if it did (as | the statistical averages seem to slightly show) it would NOT make ANY | difference....they are ALL humans.... | | | ============================================================================ | | 739) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 9:44:29 am | | gregy> | "...years of brutal selection for strength and stupidity, whitey | might not be very smart either...." | .... | This statement (and I KNOW you're not "that way") exhibits the crux of | the whole poisoned philisophy.... | ... | Who, just WHO, says "others" (I assume blacks, here, from the phrasing | of your statement) are less intelligent that whites....??????????? | .... | That is NOT shown by the "statistical averages".....and, even if it WERE | true.....what would it matter....???.....it wouldn't mean those "others" | were "less than human"..... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 740) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 9:49:29 am | | glennmcc> | I beg to differ..... "race" most certainly _does_ have a lot to do with it. | | The human race is much more intelligent than is the fish race, | the monkey race, the cow race.... etc.... etc.... etc.... | | ============================================================================ | | 741) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 10:27:08 am | | gregy> | Glenn...I prefer to not use the discredit term "race"..... | ... | I prefer the old biblical "kind"..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 742) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 11:07:36 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.Frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=24559 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 743) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 4:42:31 pm | | glennmcc> | Fine, have it your way then........... | | Human kind is much more intelligent than is fish kind, | monkey kind, cow kind.... etc.... etc.... etc.... | | | ============================================================================ | | 744) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 5:56:48 pm | | gregy> | yes....but...again...I fear that I failed to explain properly...what | I was trying to say was "within the human kind"...within the human | "race"....there are no "races" that are more intelligent that other | "races"...because they're all part of the "human race" and what are now | called "races" are just "people-groupings" which are all part of that | overall "humankind/mankind/humanrace"..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 745) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 5:57:30 pm | | gregy> | ..and...of course....you're right...humans are much more intelligent | than the animals... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 746) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 6:25:58 pm | | glennmcc> | Humans _are_ animals. | | ============================================================================ | | 747) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 6:33:11 pm | | glennmcc> | Main Entry: 1an·i·mal | Pronunciation: 'a-n&-m&l | Function: noun | Etymology: Latin, from animale, neuter of animalis | animate, from anima soul -- more at ANIMATE | 1 : any of a kingdom (Animalia) of living things | including many-celled organisms and often many of | the single-celled ones (as protozoans) that typically | differ from plants in having cells without cellulose | walls, in lacking chlorophyll and the capacity for | photosynthesis, in requiring more complex food materials | (as proteins), in being organized to a greater degree of | complexity, and in having the capacity for spontaneous | movement and rapid motor responses to stimulation | | ============================================================================ | | 748) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 6:47:36 pm | | gregy> | Well...then...I'll just concede this small nit-pic by saying that | You're Right...!!!....the "humans" are the smartest of all the "animals" | .... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 749) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 8:30:46 pm | | ray> | This is funny, you being more of a liberal than me on this one. | Me, I've long since given up trying to belive that the races are | of equal ability. I was a true beliver for most of my life, then | doubt set in, but I hung on to my faith regardless, then eventualy | the self deception just got to be too burdensome and I faced reality | but hated myself for it, now I can just live with the facts and not | feel bad: Negoes are, on average, dumber than whites, who are on | average dumber than Orientals who are on average dumber than ... | and which 'identifiable group' has the highest average inteligence? | | Armenian Jews. | | The thing is to seperate facts from agendas, that's the key. | Once I realized that I could let myself know that Negro's are | of lesser intelect than whites, (on average) withought necessarily | hating anyone or having any agenda towards them, it became easy. | I judge each man on his individual merits, so what I know about | the races changes nothing, there is nothing I can *do* with the | knowledge except understand why things are as they are. | I lived in a black culture for three years, and they were the | happiest of my life, I have had dozens of *real* negro friends | and to me they are just people, nothing more, nothing less. | | | ============================================================================ | | 750) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 8:36:42 pm | | ray> | BTW I'm left handed. Lefties are notably different in ability from | mighty righties, it's often puzzled me that it's quite ok to face | that fact without anyone getting upset. No talk of disadvantages, | no afermative action, no statistics kept to make sure that lefties | are not being picked on. Fact is, apart from women, lefties are the | most universaly 'picked on' group everywhere and at all times in | history. Not allowed to whine though, we just get on with it and do | the best we can when using a drill press. But, I expect to be | judged as an idividual, and so I am. | | | ============================================================================ | | 751) Fri, Sep 22, 2006 - 8:41:18 pm | | glennmcc> | Since the right side of the body is controlled by the left side of the brain | and vise versa..... only left handed people are in their right mind. | | | ============================================================================ | | 752) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 4:23:23 am | | glenn-ROTFLALALAL> | he he.... | ... | Ray....Glenn....I still think I've miss-represented my viewpoint...but | ..hey...that's life... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 753) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 4:37:09 am | | gregy> | ..but... | 1. Given "racial" (I prefer "people-group") differences in average, | statistical intellegence measurements (I do NOT just consider the IQ | type measurement, there are others), | 2. It is a fact that ANY given group will have people who test at the | "highest" (aka 100% range) level....and ALL groups will have some of | these "highest" individuals. | 3. It is a fact that ANY given group will have people who test at the | "lowest" (aka 1% range) level....and ALL groups will have some of these | "lowest" individuals. | 4. GroupA will have the highest percentage of people who test at the | "highest" level, GroupB will have the next highest percentage, GroupC | will have the next highest, etc, etc...for all groups... | 5. The POINT is that ALL groups will have some "highest"/"lowest" | level individuals....just the percentage-numbers will vary.. | 6. ALL human groups freely/easily interbreed...which PROVES that they | are the SAME race/species/kind.... | 7. The Bible bears this out with it's account of the creation of | male/female MAN. | 8. Intelligence (which nowdays seems to be a "false-god" just as | PhysicalAttractiveness is)...really has NO effect upon how much a | person is worth... | 9. Being "sharp/quick/smart" oftentimes proves to be a reaaallll | detriment to the actual operational-intellect of a person (aka "wisdom") | 10. I can guarantee that there are "dumb-as-stones" Armenian Jews | ..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 754) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 4:43:43 am | | gregy> | ..and...I don't think I am (or am being) "more liberal" than you on | this....I think I'm being "biblical".....and trying to see past the | surface-value to the real-value of each individual human... | ...at least I hope I am doing that... | .. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 755) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 4:46:21 am | | gregy> | oh...and BTW...this is NOT any attempt to "make you see things my way" | ...what I have done is to try to explain/lay out for you the "why" of | what I think about this whole matter/issue.. | | | ============================================================================ | | 756) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 4:56:11 am | URL | | gregy> | Toooooooooo Much..!!!!....... | | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52112 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 757) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 4:58:36 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52108 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 758) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 5:09:21 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52110 | | | ============================================================================ | | 759) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 5:23:56 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52111 | | | ============================================================================ | | 760) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 6:18:20 am | | gregy> | So much for "Tax the poor to give to the rich"....(proggy-lib meme) | | || Top Half of Taxpayers Paying Highest | || Share of Income Taxes in Decades | || | || (CNSNews.com) - The share of income | || taxes paid by the top half of | || taxpayers reached its highest level | || in decades, according to data the IRS | || released on Friday. The top half of | || taxpayers ranked by income paid 96.70 | || percent of the individual income | || taxes paid in 2004, compared to 86.05 | || percent in 1949, 89.35 percent in | || 1959, and 90.27 percent in 1969. "The | || new IRS data confirm once again that | || the tax burden is disproportionately | || borne by taxpayers in the top half," | || Jim Saxton, chairman of the Joint | || Economic Committee, said in a news | || release. "These tax data should be at | || the center of any future debate about | || tax policy. Unfortunately, a lot of | || discussion of tax policy is conducted | || without any reference to the shares | || of taxes actually paid by various | || income groups," he added. "As I have | || stressed for many years, the tax | || shares already paid by various income | || groups largely determine the | || distributional outcomes of most major | || tax changes, not the tax rate | || structure of the legislation itself," | || Saxton concluded. The share of income | || taxes paid by the top half increased | || from 96.54 percent in 2003 to 96.70 | || percent in 2004. The share of income | || taxes paid by the bottom half | || declined from 3.46 percent to 3.30 | || percent. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 761) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 7:55:42 am | | gregy> | Glenn....I see that Bear's site is down.... | ... | Any news on his wellbeing.....??? | | | ============================================================================ | | 762) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 8:14:09 am | URL | | gregy> | Maybe...???? | | http://ace.mu.nu/archives/197888.php | http://ace.mu.nu/archives/Fireworks-01-june.gif | http://ace.mu.nu/archives/Fireworks-03-june.gif | http://ace.mu.nu/archives/Fireworks-02-june.gif | | | ============================================================================ | | 763) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 8:20:19 am | URL | | gregy> | Very fortunate to still be alive....??? | | http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/4208597.html | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 764) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 8:25:57 am | URL | | gregy> | Now, I wonder...hmmm...just WHAT was in the hypodermic...???? | | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/ODD_STING?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMP | | | | ============================================================================ | | 765) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 8:31:54 am | | gregy> | CLINTON, THE WAR PRESIDENT [Byron York] | | | Justoneminute's Tom Maguire adds a little overlooked perspective to | Bill Clinton's latest self-defense on the issue of terrorism: | | Pulitzer Prize winner David Halberstam delivered "War in a Time of | Peace - Bush, Clinton, and the Generals" in May of 2001. Although he | covered Iraq, Somalia, Haiti, Bosnia, and Kosovo, there is not a hint | of a mention of Al Qaeda or Osama Bin Laden. That suggests that, in | all his digging and interviewing on the topic of Clinton at war, | Halberstam never uncovered Clinton's war on terror, or did not | experience Clinton's people pounding the table and emphasizing its | importance. | | Posted at 9:37 AM | | | ============================================================================ | | 766) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 10:01:04 am | | ray> | Gregy, | | Well that's just it, one can acnowledge the average statistical | differences between *any* two groups without this impacting on the | fact that they are of equal worth biblicaly, moraly, and legaly. | As you say, there are both dolts and geniuses in every race, but | the number of black geniuses is rather low. However, you are right | again -- IQ, though useful, is far from being a full or even accurate | meassure of worth, or even of intelect. I know nominaly high IQ | people that I find rather dumb and v.v. | | Oh, as to the poor suffering top half, I bleed for them. When will | the government give them a break? I read a heart-breaking story in | the local rag about one of our billionares (we have quite a few of | them too). He complained that due to taxation, he couldn't afford | the 6" thick soid Spanish oak front door he had his heart set on and | had to skimp by on 5". Makes you want to cry. Just because the 'bottom | half' has almost nothing left that *can* be taxed is no reason to | let them off so lightly. Yes, they have almost nothing, but if we | cut wages and benefits, threw out almost all government services it | would still be possible to cut the taxes of our billionares even | further. Yes, the rich have suffered enough! | | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 767) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 10:51:59 am | | Jake> | Maybe the highest taxpayers know they're in for a rake-off | from all the Govt spending? | | Several nations consider themselves races, and superior. | Hardly likely to consider themselves inferior, but they | seem to need an explanation for their temporary good fortune. | | ============================================================================ | | 768) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 11:28:31 am | | ray> | Jake, | | Of course! However, why get a lucrative contract to, say, build | a public library when you could get an even more lucrative contract | to, say, build the star-wars missle deffence system? "America | is at war"! it would be unpatriotic to question military speeding, | so if some contractor needs to charge $1800 for a hammer, so | be it. | | | ============================================================================ | | 769) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 3:13:58 pm | | gregy> | Well...."rob the rich" doesn't seem to work as well, tax revenue wise, | as "tax cuts for the rich"...(which is nonsense, anyway, since where | our rob-the-richers set their mark is at 96,000 bucks for married pair) | ... | See that link I posted this past week(?) about tax revenues hitting | an all time high.. | .... | I don't believe it letting "rich" rip off the poor and middle-class, | oversight and regulation (minimal) are necessary....but...beyond that | ...I refuse to indulge in, or condone, hate-the-rich-'cause-their-rich | greedy envy.... | ... | hey...!!!....I don't even greedy-envy the done-nothing malibu-liberal | parasites their wealth....they can have it, even though I consider it | "ill-gotten gains"..... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 770) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 3:17:55 pm | | gregy> | Jake....yeah...scroll back thru....Ray and I've already touched on that | ... | ... | Under the subject of "Progress..is it really????" we swatted it in | passing..... | ... | As far as I'm concerned....America, per se, has no extra "virtue" for | being relatively wealthy and healthy, compared to some of the backwater | nations/areas in other parts of the world (Zimbabwe comes to mind)... | ..which it NOT to say that their culture/society/economy/etc is more | "virtuous" just because it's so primative and rundown... | | | ============================================================================ | | 771) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 3:20:40 pm | | gregy> | That is NOT to say that ALL cultures/societies values are "the | same/equal"....I'm allowed to discriminate as to which I prefer... | .. | And, as far as I can see, human sacrifice is not something I want to see | my living-enviroment society/culture practice... | ... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 772) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 3:35:06 pm | URL | | Jake> | http://www.mcgill.ca/news/2004/fall/epilogue/ | | Found this, looking for a reference to Tonga having the highest | proportion of PhDs. | | | ============================================================================ | | 773) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 3:54:45 pm | URL | | gregy> | one for you, Ray..... | | http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Worthington_Peter/2006/09/23/18836 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 774) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 4:04:35 pm | URL | | gregy> | well...well...here it is, right out in the opened...!!!! | ... | The criminals saying, "Since you arrested us, and prosecuted us, you | are causing us to do even more of these criminal acts."... | ... | Yep...such is the "modern-mindset"..... | | http://news.monstersandcritics.com/health/article_1204195.php/Activists_thre | ... | Oh, BTW....I'm a card-carrying member of P.E.T.A. | .... | (PeoplefortheEatingofTastyAnimals).... | ... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 775) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 4:13:05 pm | URL | | gregy> | Here's another take on that last post..... | | http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52120 | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 776) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 5:18:02 pm | | Eric> | Ray, Re: Lefties ..... So I am ambidexrous to the extent | that others complain/make comment when they notice me using | my left hand when a right handed person would use his right | hand. And I am not even aware of it. So, where does that | leave me. I seem to have to think harder to differentiate | left from right which may be because I tend to not | differentiate. If you throw me a ball I may catch it with | my left hand if it's more handy to do so. If I drop | something or a cup of hot coffee is tipping over I will | reflexively use the most convenient hand to catch it. | And some stranger behind me, standing in line, often | pipes up with "nice catch". And as I turn around to | see who is addressing me, I see this person standing | there with this look of astonishment on their face. | Does that make me dumber or smarter ? | | | ============================================================================ | | 777) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 5:42:01 pm | | Eric> | Jake, Re: #772 - Tonga - Notice the origin of this article.... | Mc Gill in Canastan. Does this type of reasoning sound like | any other Canastany we know ? | | ============================================================================ | | 778) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 6:17:24 pm | | ray> | RE 773: | | Gotta agree, this dual citizenship stuff really stinks. What's | interesting is that allofasudden most Kanistaniis seem to agree on | that, left right middle, it's just a scam. These people park their | money at home and sometimes havent been here for decades, but when | medical care or social assistance or 'evacuation' is needed they | suddenly remember that they are Kanistaniis. | | | ============================================================================ | | 779) Sat, Sep 23, 2006 - 6:19:45 pm | | ray> | Eric, | | You ambis are the master race IMHO, you've got it both ways. | | | ============================================================================ | | 780) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 4:11:41 am | URL | | Eric> | This sounds interesting. Maybe we will be carrying our electric | power in our shirt pockets. | | http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=35175 | | | ============================================================================ | | 781) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 4:20:58 am | URL | | Jake> | I wouldn't buy this sort of journalism: | http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50744 | | What's the polar opposite term for "mainstreamleftistproggyliberal" | or whatever? | | | ============================================================================ | | 782) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 4:22:13 am | | gregy> | Eric....that was a "nice try"...they obviously have "advanced" the | "state of the art"..... | ... | But, the article mentions the ONE caveat.....it ain't a "battery"..it's | a re-chargeable capacitor.... | .. | Now...yes, "if they can overcome that, etc"....but...capacitors are | notorious for being/becoming increasingly "leaky" as they age (i.e. | the more times you charge/recharge them). This has to do with the | very nature of what an "electrolite" does in a capacitor... | ... | | | ============================================================================ | | 783) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 4:26:03 am | | gregy> | Jake....re: #781.....that's a generalized, overview-type comment.. | ... | What is it that you reject about that article...??? (which, BTW, I | had entirely missed, or declined to read)... | | | ============================================================================ | | 784) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 4:27:44 am | | gregy> | Eric....gee, I sure wish that I was an "ambi"..... | ... | hmmmm...ermmmmm...well...maybe not.... | ... | Oh, well, I think I'll just be thankful that I'm something-dexterous | ....(which was that, again....hmmmm....can't remember....oh, well, not | important)...... | ...... | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 785) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 4:33:16 am | | gregy> | Glenn....please give me the first three letters of the "secret name" | on the "test" board....and the rest of the name on the "prj" board... | ... | I don't need the extension....I know what it'll be..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 786) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 4:52:28 am | URL | | gregy> | hmmmm....I wonder just WHERE!!!! has our "great" MlSM been on THIS | thing...????????!!!!!!!!!!! | .... | he he...but my favorite brand of cheese, Tillamok, appears to be | NON-rBGH....... | | http://www.organicconsumers.org/text4.html | | http://www.organicconsumers.org/text5.html | | | ============================================================================ | | Š 787) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 6:25:22 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/24/books/review/Senior.t.html?_r=1&pagewanted | | | | ============================================================================ | | 788) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 6:43:55 am | URL | | gregy> | Our Sunday Steyn.... | | http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cst-edt-steyn24.html | | | | ============================================================================ | | 789) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 7:05:08 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/speak_out/article/0,2777,DRMN_23970_50 | | | ============================================================================ | | 790) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 7:07:58 am | | Eric> | Gregy, When working in tight spots like under trailers | and cars doing maintenance work, it's often nice to be able | to use the other hand. | | | ============================================================================ | | 791) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 7:14:06 am | | gregy> | yes, Eric....as I said, "gee, I wish...etc"....but....again... | ... | I think I'll just be thankful for the whatever-dextrousness that I'm | gifted with.... | ..... | hmmmmm...now...if I could just "lay a hand" on the dextrousness.... | ....hmmmmm.... | ... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 792) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 7:34:33 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://newsbusters.org/node/7815 | | | ============================================================================ | | 793) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 8:14:09 am | | Eric> | Gregy, I am sure you know that "dextrous" comes from | the latin word "dexter" which means right, like in right | hand. I don't know how the left hand got included in | the english version...probably started by some "ambi" | who didn't know the difference. | | | ============================================================================ | | 794) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 8:20:12 am | | gregy> | yeah...them "ambis" are pretty dense, sometimes...... | ... | OOOPPPPS..!!!! | .... | ... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 795) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 8:20:42 am | | gregy> | I apologize...I forgot......:P~~~~~~~~ | | | ============================================================================ | | 796) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 8:38:56 am | URL | | gregy> | This..... | | http://reuters.myway.com/article/20060924/2006-09-24T045510Z_01_L23793153_RT | | ..but...there are others with excellent credentials (such as Michael | Ledeen) who have reports from "inside" various countries of the region | that binLadin has been dead for around 2+years. | .. | For me, what seems to indicate this is true, is the lack of any VIDEOs | for over 2 years... | ... | ...and...the way Zawahiri seems to be exercizing leadership and control. | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 797) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 9:13:02 am | URL | | gregy> | One of the finest, balanced treatments I seen, recently... | | http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_4387552 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 798) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 1:37:03 pm | | glennmcc> | "secret word" == the name of my addiction == cho???????.??? | | ============================================================================ | | 799) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 2:36:39 pm | | gregy> | hmmmm....your ?????.??? has one extra letter...???.....I mean...as far | as I remember, you n me gots the same addiction........but ... | ...but...I tried it....and it came back "not found"..... | ...and...yes....I KNOW what the extension HAS to be... | ... | So...it must be that extra letter.....hmmmmm.... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 800) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 2:49:33 pm | | glennmcc> | Nope... no extra letters. | | Someone whom is addicted to alcohol is an alcoholic. | | I am a ...... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 801) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 2:57:58 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, You are an oatmeal cookie. | | ============================================================================ | | 802) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:00:19 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, No, no, no ... You're a Devil's food cake. hehehe | | | ============================================================================ | | 803) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:04:45 pm | | glennmcc> | You're nuts !! | | ============================================================================ | | 804) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:05:46 pm | | gregy> | ooooooKAY....yes.....finally the light dawned..... | ... | | Eric....I can "live" that #802....as long as it has coffee icecream on | it...in a biiiiigggggg bowl.... | | | ============================================================================ | | 805) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:07:18 pm | | gregy> | humh..??? humh...???....... | ... | whoooooooo hoooooo...!!!....gots to go downtown and get me some of | that stuff.....I mean...youz 'rouzed ma appetite... | | | | ============================================================================ | | 806) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:09:20 pm | | gregy> | And...yeah....that "communal fix" that we've sorta implemented IS a | quick-n-dirty fix.....we can kinda keep it in mind for future problems | .... | | | ============================================================================ | | 807) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:12:39 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, I got it, I got it, I got it ....your an | Arachneholic who gorges on Devil's food cake. | | I love a good riddle...reminds me of "Guess That Word" | on the Red Green Show....Now I've got to go to the | grocery store and get some M & M's 'cause I love | chocolate and I can't survive with out chocolate. | | | ============================================================================ | | 808) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:26:53 pm | | Eric> | Put the cursor in this empty box and press page down.... | what's that ? | | | ============================================================================ | | 809) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:37:24 pm | | Eric> | If you put the cursor in this empty box (cursor goes to upper | left corner) and press page down, the cursor changes to a | smiley face and moves up 1 line. If you then enter some | characters and press [ENTER] , Arachne gives an xSwap | error. Also, Arachne goes offline but the modem is still | connected. | | ============================================================================ | | 810) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:40:29 pm | | glennmcc> | IIRC, You had a similar problem once before. | | Q: Why not simply stop pressing pagedown while in a text entry field ? | | | | ============================================================================ | | 811) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:42:36 pm | | Eric> | It only happens if [PAGE DOWN] is the 1st key you press | after refreshing and placing the cursor in the box with | the TAB key. | | | ============================================================================ | | 812) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:45:08 pm | | Eric> | Yeh, I know....It hurts when I press here...so stop pressing there. | | What can I say...I must have masochistic tendencies! hehehe | | ============================================================================ | | 813) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:51:07 pm | | Eric > | | | | ============================================================================ | | 814) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 3:52:57 pm | | Eric > | In my last post there was a smiley face but it didn't | get sent to the board. | | | ============================================================================ | | 815) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 4:09:10 pm | | Eric> | When one doesn't use a mouse, [page down] or [space bar] is | required to get to the page bottom so one can tab the cusor | to the [send/refresh] button. If the cursor happens to be | in a text entry box then the page doesn't move. | | ============================================================================ | | 816) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 4:40:47 pm | | gregy> | hmmmm...Eric....errmmmmm....aren't there SOME few, little things that | one might be expected to remember....???? | . | . | . | . | . | . | ....:P~~~~~~~~~~.................. | | | ============================================================================ | | 817) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 4:52:10 pm | | glennmcc> | try using 'end' instead of 'pagedown' | | | ============================================================================ | | 818) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 4:59:46 pm | | Eric> | Makes no difference to me...I can survive....after all | I am using DOS...I just thought you'd want to be | informed. | | ============================================================================ | | 819) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 5:03:06 pm | | glennmcc> | Thank you... thank you... for the 'heads up'. | | Now I know not to hit pagedown while in a text entry field. | | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 820) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 5:03:32 pm | | Eric> | Since the keys are next door to each other, I sometimes accidentally | press page down...I have never noticed this anomally before so | I must not do it too often. | | | ============================================================================ | | 821) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 5:13:33 pm | | glennmcc> | Oh.... I thought it was an 'old problem'. | | Hmmmm... I'll look into it. | | Ray, | | What do you think ? | | Somewhere in guievent.c ??? | | ============================================================================ | | 822) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 6:16:19 pm | URL | | gregy> | NOTE - I herebye declare a "holiday"...from all things you now have | going on....!!! | ... | This is a MUST read...!!! (do not forget the "Charts and Tables" | section...!!! | | http://www.besse.at/sms/ | | | ============================================================================ | | 823) Sun, Sep 24, 2006 - 6:18:53 pm | | gregy> | Oh, and you MUST download the "pitchers"....they're in-excludable... | ... | | | | | ============================================================================ | | 824) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 12:08:10 am | | Eric> | Hey guys, Re: post 813 looked blank with Arachne.... but ... | since my Arachne is down I'm using MSIE and it shows a little | square box in post #813 | | ============================================================================ | | 825) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 12:39:35 am | | Eric> | Hey guys, Re: post 813 looked blank with Arachne.... but ... | since my Arachne is down I'm using MSIE and it shows a little | square box in post #813 | | ============================================================================ | | 826) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 3:00:11 am | | Eric> | Sorry for the double post...I have no idea how that happened. | Confused "ambi". | | | ============================================================================ | | 827) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 3:44:00 am | | gregy> | no, no...."ambi" is NOT the problem....except as far as the problem | you've given yourself with your choice of blowzzer....I mean...that | InterNetExploder is very "non-dextrous" and known to do that "double | posting".... | | | ============================================================================ | | 828) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 4:30:13 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MaryKatharineHam/2006/09/25/chicks_carryi | | | ============================================================================ | | 829) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 8:17:36 am | | Jake> | Re: 828 | Viewpoint from here (andyouknewthiswascoming): Disgusted. | | | ============================================================================ | | 830) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 3:35:58 pm | | gregy> | yes...Jake....I/we knew........but...be aware...that link was | NOT posted for the purpose of disgusting you..... | ... | ..and...you're welcome to your own viewpoint..... | | | ============================================================================ | | 831) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 3:36:32 pm | | gregy> | BTW....if you had the same viewpoint as me......you'd bore me to death | .... | | | ============================================================================ | | 832) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 3:50:30 pm | URL | | gregy> | | http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/9/25/163927.shtml | | | | ============================================================================ | | 833) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 4:18:13 pm | URL | | gregy> | Unbelieveable...!!!! | | http://allbleedingstops.blogspot.com/2006/09/delicate-situation.html | | | ============================================================================ | | 834) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 5:08:17 pm | | glennmcc> | Eric, | | Post 813 _is_ blank. | | It contains nothing but a single 'space' in the message body. | | ============================================================================ | | 835) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 5:36:01 pm | | Jake> | 813 shows as a square in Opera and OffByOne browsers. | | | ============================================================================ | | 836) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 7:07:01 pm | | gregy> | Jake....if that other'n disgusted you....this'n oughta make ya swoon | ........:P~~~~~~~~~~ | | 3 awarded Bronze Star medals | Posted Sep 18, 2006 - 08:28 AM | | | | | By Gazette News Services | | GREAT FALLS - Three Malmstrom Air Force Base | airmen were awarded Bronze Star medals during a | ceremony here. | | Maj. Gen. Thomas Deppe, 20th Air Force commander, | presented the awards Thursday to Airman 1st Class | Charity Trueblood, Capt. Johnathan Bennett and | Maj. Lawrence King. The Bronze Star is awarded to | service members in all branches of the military | for combat heroism or meritorious service. | Trueblood, Bennett and King received the | distinction for their actions while deployed in | Iraq. | | Trueblood was awarded the Bronze Star with Valor | for her heroism while serving as a gun truck | operator and combat lifesaver during a Dec. 5, | 2005, attack on her convoy near Balad Air Base. | While under fire, Trueblood maneuvered her gun | truck between an attacking enemy and the other | convoy vehicles, enabling them to proceed | unharmed to their destination, a news release | from Malmstrom said. | | She also later helped extinguish a burning | vehicle, treated the driver for a gunshot wound | and assessed a second driver for shrapnel wounds. | | Trueblood ensured her patient's transportation to | a safe landing zone, where she provided an | evacuation medic with the victim's vital signs. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 837) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 7:07:40 pm | | gregy> | oh, BTW...Malmstrom AFB is our only in-state active military base... | | | ============================================================================ | | 838) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 7:59:52 pm | URL | | Eric> | Anyone interested in a free power supply (with rebate)? | | http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4587957 | | | | ============================================================================ | | 839) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 8:15:48 pm | | Jake> | Hehe, wrong voltage for me, but I think my pooter's PSU is on | the way out. I can only run it with minimal hardware acceleration | for the graphics adapter, and it won't switch off/reboot correctly. | I've done a precautionary MemTest86 and the RAM's OK, and | the mobo's not one known for dodgy capacitors. PSU is cheap | to replace, but I'd want to order other stuff to reduce the percentage | postage cost. | | ============================================================================ | | 840) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 8:54:56 pm | | Eric> | Jake, | That's too bad...Did you notice they offer | free in contiguous USA ground postage...can't get | ground postage over the pond ! | | ============================================================================ | | 841) Mon, Sep 25, 2006 - 9:01:24 pm | | Eric> | Jake, | Some of the power supplies have a switch | to adapt to 120/220 source voltage. Doesn't that | work for you? | | | ============================================================================ | | Š 842) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 3:32:00 am | | Jake> | Aye, that works. It's funny how, after ten or more years, there | are still mains adapters coming from China for the UK market which | are made upside-down. They could stick the rating label the right | way round, but no. Hmmm, maybe Oz uses the same style sockets? | | ============================================================================ | | 843) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 3:39:36 am | URL | | Jake> | Nah: | http://www.powercords.co.uk/standard.htm | | Feeling rather smug that the UK design may be the best, | though electricians liked the old round pin style. | | ============================================================================ | | 844) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 5:14:45 am | | Eric> | Jake, | Interesting. Everyone has their own ideas. | We have some special designs that block the insertion | of foreign objects into the electric socket but mostly | it's not required. The closest we have is a requirement | for ground fault interupting sockets in bathrooms and | kitchens. Are there fuses in your male plug or are they | saying that the female socket is fused? I bet it's not | uncommon for people to jam the plug shutter open so | they can plug things in easier. | | | | ============================================================================ | | 845) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 6:06:30 am | | Jake> | All installations over the last 20 or so years are likely to have | a residual current circuit breaker. A guy five miles away was | electrocuted about 15 years ago, hedgetrimming. Only shaver sockets | are allowed in bathrooms. Lights and heaters etc have pull-cord switches. | Normal sockets in kitchens, and normal light switches if wanted. | All plugs are fused. The only time I've seen a suggestion of jamming | open those shutters was a public info film where it showed an overloaded | socket with the shutters jammed with matchsticks and several bare wires | prodded in. Power strips are so cheap now (4 sockets and a yard of cable | with fitted plug for less than $2) that I don't think anyone would bother | with that sort of trick these days. Electrical appliances now come with | a moulded on plug. 2nd-hand PCs and printers don't usually come with the | "kettle lead" power cord. | | ============================================================================ | | 846) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 6:13:32 am | | Jake> | When my mother had her home rewired, she confused the electrician by | asking for several of the sockets to be positioned at chest height. | They are usually about a foot above the floor in the UK, good for | crawling babies to poke around in. Mum didn't want to have to "up, | down, touch the ground" unnecessarily. | | ============================================================================ | | 847) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 7:38:32 am | | Eric> | Jake, | Of course you have 220 V. or so at the plug which | is also a bit more shocking than 110-120 V. Not to say | that 120 V. isn't enough to fry one but I am a bit more | comfortable working with 120 V. than 240 V. | | | ============================================================================ | | 848) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 8:51:40 am | URL | | gregy> | | http://epw.senate.gov/speechitem.cfm?party=rep&id=263759 | | | ============================================================================ | | 849) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 6:12:57 pm | | Eric> | Gregy, Re: #848 for example.....Please edit these pages | that are wider than my screen....They're a PITA to read. | The print is so small that small case e's look like little | round dots and the lines are still longer than the width | of the screen. Someone should teach them to write a | ledgible web page. | | ============================================================================ | | 850) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 6:16:03 pm | | glennmcc> | Where did I put ? Where _did_ I put it ???? | | _THERE_ it is. | | Found your snail mail address. | | Glasses in the mail tomorrow. | | ggggg> | | | ============================================================================ | | 851) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 7:04:25 pm | | Eric> | Jake, | My friend standing 5 feet away from me was | electrocuted. It happens real easily and it only | takes a little mistake. A worker on a new house | was killed a few months ago here when he somehow | came in contact with an overhead line. He either | touched it with his aluminum ladder or a piece | of aluminum siding or something. When he failed | to come home when expected they found him on | the ground, dead. One has to be real careful. | Especially when working in tight places like | under trailers doing plumbing. Or | when walking around outside with aluminum | ladders or long pieces of copper pipe. | | ============================================================================ | | 852) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 7:24:34 pm | | Eric> | glennmcc, My power supply is shipping from Wilmington, OH 45177 | Is that anywhere close to you? | | | ============================================================================ | | 853) Tue, Sep 26, 2006 - 8:48:18 pm | | glennmcc> | Nope... | | Wilmington is all the way down in the South West corner of the state. | | North Jackson is way up in the North East corner. | | | ============================================================================ | | 854) Wed, Sep 27, 2006 - 5:20:43 am | URL | | Jake> | I've noticed that when some scaffolding is about to go up, the | electricity company now puts a yellow insulating sleeve on the | cable to the house. URL for an example, though I see as much | black as yellow. Nobody killed there, though there was a teenager | sawing tiles without a face mask (memories of a guy with ruined | lungs in his 40s, from his demolition work). | | ============================================================================