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234) Sat, May 03, 2008 - 11:30:53 pm
gregy>
he he....please don't tell me that Oz has gotten as bad as Yankland
...<g g g>
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re: mplayer....please go to TEST board for giving me guidance...
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That way, I can clip posts easily, and have them more-or-less in one
place for archiving...etc...


235) Sat, May 03, 2008 - 11:32:39 pm
gregy>
re:  Mugabi and Mbeki....I'd venture that, at least Mugabe, all the
money that disappears goes into a foreign bank, for when he "just HAS
to leave".....and...he'll skip and live happily forever and ever, amen.
....


236) Sat, May 03, 2008 - 11:35:27 pm
Ron>
Gregy,
> he he....please don't tell me that Oz has gotten as bad as Yankland

  Not yet.   But we are getting there.  :(

  We still have a fair proportion of politicians, both state and
federal, who are doing their best.  And a smaller, but growing, number
with visible slime.



237) Sat, May 03, 2008 - 11:44:26 pm
Ron>
Gregy,
Re: 235       I would bet my arse on that.  This has been the pattern
for African leaders (=dictators), collect as much of the country's cash
as you can, put it into numbered accounts in Zurich, Cayman Islands,
etc.., and hope to get out before the mob finally tries to tear you to
pieces with their bare hands. I can remember back to Nigeria, Congo,
Uganda, Kenya and so on. Zimbabwe is just the latest example of the
African way. European colonisation just put it on hold for a while, but
didn't actually change a thing. Nelson Mandela is the only one I can
think of at the moment who did not follow the expected path, which says
so much about HIM, as a man and as a leader.



238) Sun, May 04, 2008 - 2:37:13 am
gregy>
Ron....went there, got them....<g g g>....will peruse...
...
yes, Mandella....sometimes I wonder....he certainly seemed to be a
different type of man...
...
Back when the "goebels-mouth-media" were all smarming over him, we
had hopes (false hopes it turned out) that Kenyetta would turn Kenya
into a "shining city on the hill" for africa....
...


239) Sun, May 04, 2008 - 5:21:01 pm
Ron>
Gregy,
       Jomo Kenyatta WAS a major part of the leadership of the Mau Mau.
To my mind, and for the majority of Kenya's population, he was evil
incarnate.  However, he did learn something about the use of power while
he was in jail.  According to people we knew who stayed behind in Kenya
after "Uhuru" (independance), he was the one who was holding back a
bloodbath that would have seen Kenya descend into massacres of whites
and Asians, and total destruction of the economy.

  Even so, he did not live long enough to create too much damage - that
has been done by his successors, Daniel Arap Moy and then Kibaki.
Kenya now has one of the most corrupt governments in the world.
This has inevitably lead to squables over who won the last election, and
the ethnic violence of this year. You may have noted that the "cabinet
of compromise", as one of its first matters of business, has just voted
itself massive pay rises. This makes it about the best paid parliament
in one of the lowest average-income countries in the world.

   What a surprise !



240) Sun, May 04, 2008 - 8:47:39 pm
Ron>
Correction: Daniel Arap Moi    (my bad spelling).



241) Sun, May 04, 2008 - 10:59:55 pm
gregy>
ah, you Ozzies...never could spell....<g g g>
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re: Kenya...yes...Kenyetta was probably the mainest leader of the Mau
Mau....(mainest, by meaning he ended up on top...<g g g>...)...
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And...hey...!!!  just think....way back....when this all went down...
...
Just remember what a vibrant and thriving country (for all its faults)
Kenya then was...
...
Makes ya kinda wonder, don't it...???
...
'nother reference....Belgian Congo....people don't know it even ever
existed.  I'm not refering to the name....I mean...you almost can't
find any "on the ground" relics and ruins of what once was...
...
Oh, but they (who's they, I don't know) gotta have their "freedom"..
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Oh, yes....like they've got now....
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Ah, well...I never was a great fan of "the white mans' burden" anyway.
....<g g g>


242) Mon, May 05, 2008 - 6:41:39 pm
Ron>
Gregy,
      Yes, Kenyatta was considered the leader of the Mau Mau.
He was captured early in the piece, and spent most of it in jail. Not sure now how he escaped being executed.

     And yes, you are right about the Belgian Congo. I was in Nairobi when that all erupted just before the Belgians were about to pull out. So many of them got caught in the violence. Some of those Belgian refugees were evacuated through Nairobi - I saw some of them. It was awful.
There were reports of some of the farmers in Uganda putting a few crack shots in the back of trucks and driving across the border in to Congo to find the Belgians hiding in the bush and get them out before they were massacred. Nothing official was published, but the grapevine carried a lot of very bad stories about what they saw.

    Independance for former colonies always was inevitable. And so was the concequences.

243) Sat, May 10, 2008 - 11:16:39 pm
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glennmcc>
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Please take this link to our new location at www.glennmcc.org

<ggg>


244) Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:16:13 pm
glennmcc>
Hi ya Jake,

Your test from many miles away was successful ;-)

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